How not to run a DE- Fontana track day

[Greg Phillips]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9X2-sE4EcU#t=321

Makes you appreciate our events even more

Greg

[niche]

If I ever get good enough to be an instructor, remind me not to.

[martinreinhardt]

Holy Cr@p !!! Talking about a nightmare for instructors.

horrible egomaniac student driver + incapable not in control instructor = BAD accident waiting to happen. The only reason these clowns didn't kill them selfs, is because the electronics in that car saved their lives more than once. This should have been BLACK FLAGGED !!!!

If one of my students ever behaves or uses the language this clown did, then I'll make sure that he will be sent home for the safety of everybody else on the track.

[dcarusillo]

OMG that was hilarious! What was the "instructor" pointing at?...Track side locations for the crew to place the Crucifixes?!?! Love the "driver's", oops I mean passenger's expression, when the wheel was turned 180 degress in the penis head, he floors it and the car goes limp! Then the moron looks at the automatic shifter and thinks it's out of gear.....God help him

[mrondeau]

I had to stop watching. Anybody driving like that at one of our time trials or DE's would be sent home. End of story. Any instructor who allowed that would be sent home as well. That's just stupid and unsafe.

Thank God he was in a car with a complete set of electronic nannies. He wouldn't have been able to complete one lap in a car that didn't have electronic aids.

[Mike]

More DE shaming...
https://youtu.be/QHeKOEN_0sM

[Steve Grosekemper]

I.D.P.M. - I love it; going to use that one.

[mrondeau]

Maximum knob points achieved!

[J_DeLira]

I would show this video to every first time DE student and point out every single thing that is wrong. So many teaching moments here... Especially when it comes to managing one's ego and avoiding "red mist." The driver's attitude is the root cause of most of this.

[Autobahn]

http://jalopnik.com/worst-trackday-video-ever-corvette-driver-risks-life-t-1712375361

[Cajundaddy]

Eeesh! Ugliest track vid of 2015. Two cowboys with zero skill out flogging their new rides with some no-rules independent track day club. The "Instructor" should have ended this session in lap 1 turn 9.

There is a reason we do so much driver and instructor training in PCA.

[Old Guy]

Given various Driver School BMW CCA sessions at the three Summit Point track circuits, but only one here in CA - Fontana with BMW in our (now gone) 2000 full Dinan 328Ci running APEX wheels with sticky tires - I consider myself a Novice qualified to comment. Here are some points that hit me: 1) open face helmets (and no neck braces or gloves) in a car that occasionally topped 150 mph; 2) a car that occasionally topped 150 mph; 3) 150+ mph; 4) apparently: a lack of passing rules (our DEs don't follow the rule that you don't pass unless/until you are indicated by, left or right? Perhaps the video quality missed this?); 5) so far I've never driven a PDK car at the track (might soon) but watching this video impressed me with just how physically uninvolved, much less using coordinated actions, the driver can be while driving "fast" - hmmm - should PDK drivers be mandated to use the paddle shifters?; 6) an apparent (total?) lack of constructive "instruction" via helmet communicators - where I come from, you can't be an instructor without having radio communicators for you and your student; 7) what's with the F word? In my world: not to be tolerated; 150+ mph at a DE event??!!

I could go on, but I sense this is enough speaking out for a chapter newbie that has yet to do a single SD chapter DE event. Oh: the BMW folks inserted a "sort of" chicane at the end of the front straight that required us to duck and weave back up onto the banking for the curve. Seemed like a good idea to me.

Otherwise, my friends: Live Long and Prosper

[jbrennen]

Given various Driver School BMW CCA sessions at the three Summit Point track circuits...

Ah, a fellow expatriate from the DC area?

My only "big track" experience was Summit Point main circuit. I know guys who instruct there (you probably know some of them as well; Brian Hair comes to mind). They wouldn't put up with the crap in this video.

[Old Guy]

In advance: please forgive my too-long post.

Brian Hair (affiliated with OG Racing, last I checked) is a well-known fixture in/around DC and of course, at Summit Point. For those with some time on their hands, open this link and review what Summit Point offers: Main, Jefferson, and Shenandoah circuits (omitting the 4th kart/drift course, not to mention the gun range and other assorted features). All of this within an hour one-way from our place in Alexandria, VA. Grass verges, trees, DEs as often as not driven (windows down) in the rain. No desert winds, no blowing sand, no tumbleweeds, camping in the woods...ah, the good old days.

http://summitpoint-raceway.com

OK, I know, the past is past; no going back. Eventually I'll learn to love Chuckwhatchamacallit, Weeping Willow and whatever the other all-day trip north circuit is. Fontana: closest...but too busy and too expensive to be a "home" circuit...apparently. That said using more than one car club plus other events, it can indeed be a go-to circuit for those of us here in San Diego. I'll go back.

At least we have Qualcomm for our autocross program...for now. When/if the Chargers bolt (pun intended)...then what?

My DC time: 85-87 (during which I twice spun our '79 SC at the end of the Main (and only circuit back then) straight); next 08-11 (3 different BMWs; 3 different full circuits; no spins). Overseas for the 20+ years in between.

To note: the immortal words of my Instructor just before the first spin at the end of the main straight (270 degree turn to the right): "You can't go into the corner this fast." He was correct. Second spin? Blame the windshield wiper lever. Those of you with SCs or Carreras will understand what I'm saying.

To close - and speaking sincerely: it really is inspiring to see how organized - "professional?" - our San Diego chapter is. Great group, and we're happy to be members.

Thanks to All for being so welcoming.

PS: East County roads acknowledged as a positive: fun, yes; safe, no.

[Gary Burch]

interesting approach to instructing...

http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports ... ay-safety/