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Nasty wreck...

Posted:
Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:44 pm
by Gary Burch

Posted:
Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:25 pm
by hmeeder
Anyone keeping score on how many wrecked CGTs there are ?(including our own tragic loss)
I'd wager to say there may be a higher percentage of wrecks to total production than virtually any other car I can remember.
Apparently Porsche has made a car that exceeds the skills of about 99% of the way too rich guys who are fortunate enough to buy one. Everyone should stick to 914s. Harder to hurt yourself (but easier to get overlooked!)

Posted:
Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:05 pm
by Tim Comeau
Hate to see that. It's alot of car for the average street driver.

Posted:
Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:20 pm
by ajackson
From what I've read it's a pretty tough car to drive even for advanced drivers.

Posted:
Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:10 pm
by Kim Crosser
Amazingly enough, the news article says the driver had serious injuries, but the passenger had "light" injuries.
The article says that two hotel guests borrowed the car from another hotel guest and during a "test ride", the woman driving the car lost control, with the results shown...

Posted:
Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:21 pm
by lowyder993s
Same day (couple weeks ago)...black CGT totalled in Orange County...had Pioneer license plate holder. Dang that's sad.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthre ... a+totalled

Posted:
Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:55 am
by Bob Gagnon
The Mc Laren F1 has similar issues, I read that even Ron Dennis crashed one.....
As the weight per horsepower decreases, the number of drivers qualified to drive the car also decreases


Posted:
Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:19 pm
by Jad
I think the ease and comfort that insane speeds can be reached may be as much to blame as the fact they can be reached. You just ease into the throttle in second and hit 100 mph in total comfort and oblivion, other that the speedo. It use to be the car roared and bounced and worked even if 100 mph was well within the performance perameters, now it feels like 50 mph and people just don't realize how long it takes to stop even from a very comfy and stable 100 mph.
To drive a very fast 60's muscle car down the freeway took two hands and full concentration, now to drive a 5,000 lbs SUV is so effortless, most are on the cell phone, eating a Big mac and fiddling with the NAV system while doing it.

Posted:
Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:51 pm
by Kim Crosser
By the way, if I understood the article correctly, it said the driver took off the stability control - it seems to say "because the ride was too hard (harsh?)".
Let's see - 700 HP, light weight, no stability control, novice driver, at night - if she was drinking as well, that would complete the superfecta.

Posted:
Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:28 pm
by Dan Chambers
Kim Crosser wrote:Amazingly enough, the news article says the driver had serious injuries, but the passenger had "light" injuries.
The article says that two hotel guests borrowed the car from another hotel guest and during a "test ride", the woman driving the car lost control, with the results shown...
Wow! Terrible thing to happen. Sorry to hear of major injuries to the driver. Impressed that the passenger suffered less severe injury ... or that there were no fatalities.
Okay, Maybe I'm just completely lost on this one but ............ who in their right mind would actually
lend a CGT to someone else ... in a hotel (bar?) ....... at night ....... on a two-lane highway/road with no center-divider .......... in possible inclement weather .... and not on-board to keep an eye on them?

(
Then again; who in their right mind would by a CGT when they could buy an entire livery of other P-cars to fill a garage for the same amount of $$$$$?)
Should there be a pre-purchase exam to determine the mental fitness and driving acumen of a CGT buyer?
(Or is that mental acumen and driving fitness?
)
This sort of accident is really a bummer

. Just a shame.......
D-

Posted:
Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:45 pm
by martinreinhardt
Let me guess what happen since this occured in Holland

: two hot blondes ask for the keys of the Carrera GT and the owner lost his mind at the Hotels “coffee shop” and gave them his keys. 1 km later, the car was broken in two pieces.
On the serious side: Porsche should set some requirements to own one of these CGT’s other than having too much money like: previous Porsche owner, completed a least a Porsche or similar performance driving or racing school.
Too bad ...

Posted:
Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:51 pm
by Gary Burch
You would think a guy with enough money to buy one of these things would have the sense to use the brain in his head instead of the one he sits on. Like Jad says 100mph in a GT is not as fast as 100mph in a T-targa. But the sudden stop is the same.

Posted:
Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:57 am
by TheStig
Oh the humanity!!! Why?!
I think the issue with so many wrecked GT's was already stated above; advanced car for the not-so-advanced driver.
Another great reason why there are autocrosses and DE's to help one learn his or her car.

Posted:
Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:49 am
by Bob Gagnon
The interesting thing to me is that Porsche is producing cars that straight off the showroom floor are faster than cars in some of the "Improved" categories and they can run a TT without a roll bar since they are in a "Stock" class while all "Improved" cars require a roll bar....

Posted:
Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:30 pm
by Steve Grosekemper
Bob Gagnon wrote:The interesting thing to me is that Porsche is producing cars that straight off the showroom floor are faster than cars in some of the "Improved" categories and they can run a TT without a roll bar since they are in a "Stock" class while all "Improved" cars require a roll bar....
I am working on that Bob...
Correcting that is one of my goals for 2006....