PCNA Rep contact info??????

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PCNA Rep contact info??????

Postby SPR on Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:13 am

If you don't want to read the stuff below,

Does anyone have the PCNA rep's contact information for whom would be the rep for the San Diego Ca area? Thanks I am just sick of dealing with all this crap!!!!!!

IN any event,my new clutch was installed in july of last year at pioneer. Ever since the installation it has never been right. I have repetedly taken it in there and each time they did recognize a problem and the first time chalked it up to the clutch pushrod being installed backwards. About a week later it feels bad again and they adjusted something and bled it. It felt better for about a few days, then started getting really bad. I took it in again and rebled same deal but they commented that they thought the pressure plate was defective. I also inquired if they surfaced the flywheel a common practice when replacing the clutch, if not by machine by hand to mate it properly and remove heat spots etc. They said they hadn't nor had they replaced the flywheel.

I also made the mistake of having the RMS done when it wasn't leaking at the same time the clutch was done. Result it leaked and took it back where it was replaced. Not long after it leaked again.

I was so fed up with the negligent technitions that upon the advice of a few board members I went to Hoehn, which is considerable farther than Pioneer to where I live and in the oposite way of my normal commute making it farther yet still. Upon going there I complained about the clutch and the RMS the diagnosed the clutch as having a bad hydrolic solenoid I believe it is called? They replaced that at around 250 bucks or so. Then they also said that with the RMS that if it was an installation negligence issue and not a RMS failure that I would have to foot the bill. Luckily it was the RMS that was defective and all was replaced RMS wise for free. I have still had the clutch problems. I have taken it in complaining of the clutch 2-3 times and same result. It feels fine and within spec. This is when the clutch was only a few months old and I also was out of town the entire month of Dec.

Before I took the clutch in, I specifically asked for the PCNA rep's schedule because I knew the problem was likely not going to be resolved. He swore that it woudln't be necessary and talked me out of the need. Thinking that I would get my clutch warranted I made the appointment.

Also upon my detail of the clutch as engaging high and being way stiff compared to when I initially recieved the clutch, I was always told that it was "within spec" or "normal". It obviously wansn't and I had Ben in LJ drive it because I thought I was going crazy. He confirmed it was bad.
This last visit was for complaining about the clutch and I had been hearing whine from the front, which I thought were wheel bearings. Upon takning the car in and my service advisor saying it was normal upon his suggestion I went with him on a drive.
Immediately when he let out the clutch it was engaging poorly which I could tell even in the passenger seat.
The shifts were far worse clunking as the release point is always crappy, which I chalk up to the defective PP. Upon noting the poor release, he replies, "oh, it is the shifter"! WTF I call him out. There is no way it is the shifter I reply and it's all the clutch. He then tries harder to be smoother but still poor shifting and engagement. I noted how the pp seems to change it's release point up hills and it difficult to release while doing so. He managed to go up the hill just fine but slipping the clutch just over 2k!!! I was like dude!
We are going back and forth about the clutch and finally he says that we'll just have to agree to disagree. Meanwhile he is carrying a bit of speed through a corner obviously "feeling my suspension". I was somewhat insulted that he was taking the corner like that. He wasn't going that fast, but there was clearly no need to do so in the first place. Then we switch to the bearing noise which he acknowledged at least. Before getting out of the car he tells me that a pcna guy just happens to be coming in today and that he will have him drive it. I am extremely happy because now I can get hopefully some better news.

I get a call today to call him back. He says that the wheel bearings are in fact bad and the cost will be 850 bucks!!! That seems extremely excessive to me so I say that I cannot afford to pay that and must pass, plus the fact that I am a student. Then he tells that the pcna guy drove it and that he noted that it was within spec and normal. I find this interesting given the "convenience" of the timing etc. So I ask what the guys name is then. He starts going, uh, uh, We dont' give out his name. I say that if he found it was ok then I would like to discuss it with him and make note of who he is. He says that he will have to get his service managers permission to release the name. What a bunch of BS are my thoughts. I believe that in fact no pcna guy drove it, and because I am a younger guy he thought he could lie to me and appease me doing so. I am still a law student however and am allergic to manual labor- shoveling the bs.

Does anyone have the PCNA rep's contact information for whom would be the rep for the San Diego Ca area? Thanks I am just sick of dealing with all this crap!!!!!!

BTW I did end up getting a name, and a refusal for the number to cantact him.
I also was charged 111 for things I already knew!!! :x
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Postby Curt on Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:38 am

I SO want to buy a new Porsche! :roll:
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Postby kary on Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:30 pm

Maybe I missed it, but what is the year and model of your porsche?
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Postby rss996 on Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:49 pm

SPR, pm me to discuss my issues with these people.
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Postby rss996 on Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:55 pm

Should have went to Black Forest, John and crew are the best....You know you can trust these guys to do the work right and not do work that is not needed.

I have had experience with them personally on my 996.
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Postby RickK on Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:06 pm

I have no idea who the local district rep is, but try calling 1-800-PORSCHE. They should be able to connect you.
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Postby rss996 on Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:16 pm

Just remember, 1800 porsche will record your call and it could be used against you if they so desire....be careful what you say to them about your car and or problems. Let them do the talking and just be smart about it.

I have witnessed this.
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Postby martinreinhardt on Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:31 am

I don't know the US Law very well, but where I am from verbal doesn't count, it is just verbal. And I noticed calling a company doesn't help much in general, because the person answering the phone doesn't care about the company or product he or her is working for (sad but true).

This is why when I want heads to roll, then I write a detailed letter. (in german we have better words for nasty letters :lol:)

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Postby RickK on Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:24 pm

I can't speak for Porsche, not buying or owning a car with any warranty left, but I had some issues with Cush Jaguar and a call to Jaguar's US headquarters definitely got heads rolling and achieved the results I wanted.
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Postby ben, lj on Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:15 pm

rss996 wrote:Should have went to Black Forest, John and crew are the best....You know you can trust these guys to do the work right and not do work that is not needed.

I have had experience with them personally on my 996.


Sean's car is a '99 996 which is out of warranty. However, he had a new clutch put in last summer at Pioneer. This is why he has been dealing with the dealer network to fix it for quite some time - because why should he rebuy the thing when it's supposed to be warrantied for 2 years.

BTW, do you recall the Boxster motor story re: a lady and Black Forest several years back?

Since Sean has lowered his car, PCNA will probably claim he tracked the car and therefore ruined the clutch there if the other Sean's experience is typical. Luckily this Sean's name isn't in the Windblown Witness under autocross results.
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Postby rss996 on Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:31 pm

Must be the name! LOL!
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Postby SPR on Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:17 pm

Hey sorry I hadn't followed up I am really busy with law school, but I have good friends that can speak for me :)
In any event I will try both avenues of the 1800 number as being a law student I am careful. I will also try the letter avenue. Thanks let me know if you guys have any further suggestions.
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