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Instructor Day

Postby Greg Phillips on Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:06 am

Instructor's day at the Q is coming up quickly and registration closes today at 5PM.
So if you qualify and have not registered, it is time to do so.

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Re: Instructor Day

Postby Greg Phillips on Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:25 pm

Just to stimulate some thought before the Instructor's Day, here is a thread on Rennlist regarding safety in newer cars and safety equipment :surr:

http://rennlist.com/forums/racing-and-d ... ntley.html

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Re: Instructor Day

Postby Jad on Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:33 pm

And the answer is?
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Re: Instructor Day

Postby ScandinavianFlick on Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:58 am

I am all in favor of improving safety, but I think that ultimately every individual is responsible for managing their own risk. That is the central right and responsibility of adulthood.

That being said, managing one's own risk does not extend to any situation wherein one's actions have a high likelihood of incurring risk to another. Anyone with less than four verifiable events should be required to take an instructor to minimize the risk to other participants, and any car carrying a passenger, whether an instructor, student, observer, friend, family, or other, should be required to run street tires and observe a speed limit proportional to the amount of safety equipment installed (i.e. stock street equipment 90mph, harnesses and roll bar 100mph, HANS harnesses and half cage 120mph, etc).

Side note- I don't believe making HANS devices and the associated belts, roll structure, etc should be compulsory in HPDE, as the safety gains are outweighed by the safety risks posed by decreased area of vision for a novice driver.
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Re: Instructor Day

Postby Robert Joe on Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:23 pm

Jad wrote:And the answer is?


AX, you can drive 10/10ths and the worst that can happen is you plow into a sea of cones.
Randy Pobst said "HPDE is like Foreplay" and AX is like having an Orgasm"

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Re: Instructor Day

Postby marcus981 on Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:01 pm

Since this isn't an official AX event, we didn't post the track map in the usual place, but here's a copy of the preliminary design in case anyone wants a sneak preview:

Instructor Day Preliminary Course Map

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Re: Instructor Day

Postby jbrennen on Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:30 pm

Robert Joe wrote:AX, you can drive 10/10ths and the worst that can happen is you plow into a sea of cones.


I believe it was the third autocross I ever attended, when a driver in a Z06 Vette spun through the finish, hopped a curb backward and took out a small (6 foot tall) tree.

Haven't seen anything comparable since then, and you could argue that the Vette driver was driving at 11/10ths. :)
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Re: Instructor Day

Postby Petunia777 on Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:58 am

That looks like a wayyyy fun course, Marcus! Wish I were going to be there. Have a great time today, everybody!
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Re: Instructor Day

Postby LUCKY DAVE on Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:43 pm

I was a really fast yet challenging track, the fast downhill sweeper was especially fun. Another great track design from Marcus and Andrew.  :bowdown:
While maybe a bit too fast and close to things for beginners, with a couple minor changes (mostly in the top back corner) it would be a great track for a regular AX too.
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Re: Instructor Day

Postby kleggo on Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:11 pm

Robert Joe wrote:
Jad wrote:And the answer is?


AX, you can drive 10/10ths and the worst that can happen is you plow into a sea of cones.


don't fool yourself.
that is certainly NOT the case.

ask some people that have been around for a few years about the guy in the 996 that hopped a curb, flew through a chain link fence and landed 15 feet from a SD police car / guy enjoying his lunch while watching us AX.

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Re: Instructor Day

Postby LUCKY DAVE on Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:32 pm

kleggo wrote:
Robert Joe wrote:
Jad wrote:And the answer is?


AX, you can drive 10/10ths and the worst that can happen is you plow into a sea of cones.


don't fool yourself.
that is certainly NOT the case.

ask some people that have been around for a few years about the guy in the 996 that hopped a curb, flew through a chain link fence and landed 15 feet from a SD police car / guy enjoying his lunch while watching us AX.

Craig Fenstermaker


That guy experienced what happens when you violate the "Recognize when you can't save it" rule. The cop just sat there eating his lunch, didn't faze him a bit :roll:
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Re: Instructor Day PHOTOS

Postby Greg Phillips on Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:15 am

Fun event, thanks to all who put it on :beerchug:
Nice track, with a few changes it could be a fun track for Zone 8 event.

Photos are up on Picasaweb at:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1057760116 ... directlink

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