Jad wrote:Other than maybe TT, I doubt anyone in the club actually knows how to turn the nannies off in all the various models and configurations. It seems to be different in every model, every year. Some turn back on sometimes, some don't.
Back to my long held and stated position:
to have a ton of fun and go very fast, buy a 991+ Porsche,
to learn car control and become a better driver, buy an older Porsche.
The electronics are so integrated into the new cars with active diffs, engine mounts, shocks, etc, etc, etc, you can't really control the car manually, as you need these features for the car to perform optimally, but the car is constantly changing, so you can't really learn what your actions do without the car 'correcting' them.
Fixing this with rules may be a hopeless battle.
You bring up a very good point... In a 991 you can NOT turn off the TC unless you turn of the ESC (Stability Control to help you in a spin out), which is so stupid since ESC is there for those oh sh*t moments, and TC is more for when the tires lose grip as you are accelerating.
In most other cars you have the option to turn either TC, or ESC off individually, or both together, but in a 991+ Porsche you have to turn off ESC to even be able to turn off TC which again does not make a lot of sense.
My Camaro on the other hand allows you multiple modes so you can start with all on and then slowly trim away to your comfort, i currently drive this car on Sport1 mode at the track which is TC completely off but ESC on.
WET: This mode is intended for any driver who is on a wet track.
DRY: This mode is for a novice driver on any track or an experienced driver learning a brand new track.
SPORT 1: This mode is for any driver who is ready to run very competitive lap times while still having stability control on in the background.
SPORT 2: This mode uses the exact same traction control settings as SPORT 1 but turns off ESC completely.
RACE: This one is pretty self-explanatory, it’s as fast as we know how to make the car go.