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Never let your kids drive you cars

Postby Paul Filsinger on Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:46 pm

Amazing weekend at Streets! Thanks to all the volunteers that work hard to let us have so much fun.

Alex and I finished off by swapping cars for a few practice laps. In keeping with past form he broke the “let dad win” rule and turned 1:21.02 in his first session and third lap ever in the cup car.

Show of hands - should I ever let him drive it again? :)
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Re: Never let your kids drive you cars

Postby ttweed on Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:32 am

Paul Filsinger wrote:Show of hands - should I ever let him drive it again? :)


Not until he has kids of his own and develops some sense of mortality to even the playing field. :burnout:

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Re: Never let your kids drive you cars

Postby mrondeau on Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:00 am

You should definitely let him drive it again. Maybe not for a while though. Let your pride as a father overcome the depression of being slower that your son. I'm not sure how old I'll be when Lydon starts to show me what fast really is, but he kicks my a$$ in video games already and he's only 7. :banghead: :lol:
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Re: Never let your kids drive you cars

Postby Jad on Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:59 am

I never let my dad win, and my son is pretty adamant that he will be beating me shortly. Game on.... :burnout:
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Re: Never let your kids drive you cars

Postby JayG on Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:11 pm

I am pretty sure my son Chad is going to beat me pretty soon. He came close last weekend at SOW and that was basically his 2nd track weekend
I'll be proud that he is faster, but pissed off if he costs me a place on the podium
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Re: Never let your kids drive you cars

Postby Erik K on Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:23 am

Oh definitely let him drive it again :burnout: , a pretty cool way to make you proud. Put an in-car camera in while your son is driving and you can study and learn from him. You both can push each other to be better drivers :rockon:
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Re: Never let your kids drive you cars

Postby Jad on Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:13 am

I don't think that is how it works Eric, the kid is faster because they have no fear of death or losing money, the parent still has more talent despite being slower...... :banghead:

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Re: Never let your kids drive you cars

Postby Erik K on Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:57 am

Jad,

Not sure how you got that I was implying the Son is faster only because "they have no fear of death or losing money" A Race track may not be the best environment for a person with that Mindset... Who has more talent? the Son or father? Who knows :surr:

What I was trying to say is having your Son beat you on lap times, to me (My opinion) must be a very large form of flattery as a Father. You've invested and raised this person and now seeing them blossom and EXCEL at something must be a very cool feeling as a Father.

Just like in pro racing, if they were able to compare in-car video and study from each other I assume they would both learn something and gain knowledge.

My vote still Stands, Let the son drive 8) :rockon:
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Re: Never let your kids drive you cars

Postby afilsinger on Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:15 am

Erik K wrote:
Just like in pro racing, if they were able to compare in-car video and study from each other I assume they would both learn something and gain knowledge.


We have cameras and data in both cars. It will be very interesting to see where I picked up time on my dad. I drove the same momentum car line in the Cup as I do in my 944, so I suspect I am just carrying more speed. Great fun and hopefully he lets me continue to beat him from time to time 8)
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Re: Never let your kids drive you cars

Postby Steve Grosekemper on Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:36 pm

afilsinger wrote:
Erik K wrote:
Just like in pro racing, if they were able to compare in-car video and study from each other I assume they would both learn something and gain knowledge.


We have cameras and data in both cars. It will be very interesting to see where I picked up time on my dad. I drove the same momentum car line in the Cup as I do in my 944, so I suspect I am just carrying more speed. Great fun and hopefully he lets me continue to beat him from time to time 8)


And I reiterate... learn to drive in a 944 and you will be fast in "Almost" anything...
Very nice driving Alex, you are being closely watched by the 944 Spec guys...
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Re: Never let your kids drive you cars

Postby Jad on Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:14 pm

Erik, I wasn't really saying you are wrong, in theory you are 100% correct. Both drivers should improve and benefit from studying videos and learning from each other in the same car.

I have just found the reality is that the son will learn more and improve more from the videos and seat time, whereas the father will tend to not improve much as they will still be too concerned about pain and money which is why they drive the speed they do to begin with. I can't think of a single example of the father being consistently faster for more than a few events before being bettered by their child.

I think Alex should continue to learn in the 944, only occasionally driving the fast car. Not to hold him back, or to keep the dad from losing, just there is more good habits to be learned from driving a 944 and bad habits with a CupCar while starting out.
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Re: Never let your kids drive you cars

Postby Paul Filsinger on Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:15 pm

I’m with Jad on this one. Self preservation and wallet preservation instinct runs strong! Alex is absolutely more confident too.

Alex carries more speed than me into the waterfall, even after having to slow down and pass me in the 944 in the bowl. Likely some other differences too. I’m confident he’d have broken 1:21 if I wasn’t in his way.

Will get the vids up on YouTube when I get a chance and share the link here - will be fun to hear all of you critique us!
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Re: Never let your kids drive you cars

Postby afilsinger on Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:33 pm

Paul Filsinger wrote:I’m with Jad on this one. Self preservation and wallet preservation instinct runs strong! Alex is absolutely more confident too.

Alex carries more speed than me into the waterfall, even after having to slow down and pass me in the 944 in the bowl. Likely some other differences too. I’m confident he’d have broken 1:21 if I wasn’t in his way.

Will get the vids up on YouTube when I get a chance and share the link here - will be fun to hear all of you critique us!


Here are the videos, this is my fastest lap (1:21.02): https://youtu.be/Q6yafIt5SWk

Here is Pauls fastest lap (1:21.32): https://youtu.be/k8dQZTh6uGo
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Re: Never let your kids drive you cars

Postby Cajundaddy on Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:59 pm

Congrats on the quick times and to Paul for handing down the passion of motorsport to Alex. He will be pulling an Erik K. very soon and destroying all of us. I like both vids pretty well but Alex was cleaner and demonstrated better energy conservation in the corners. This comes directly from 944 seat time where any bobble or energy loss will kill your lap dead.

My vote: Give Alex a season in 944 to drive home the lessons, with occasional seat time in the Cup Car for fun and benchmark comparison laps. He will need a good job soon because the tire expense is about to take off.

It's going to be a fun year! :rockon:
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