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Willow Springs DE/TT June 5,6

Postby mtcurran on Tue May 18, 2021 9:23 pm

Good news/Bad news
The first half of the PCASDR DE/TT year is finishing up in a few weeks at Big Willow and so far the events have been very successful. The DE School has been more popular than ever thanks to all of the volunteers stepping up to accommodate the increased influx of student drivers wanting to participate. THANK YOU volunteers and instructors. We've gone from Lead / Follow instruction earlier in the year to in-car instruction at our last event at Chuckwalla. We had 10 DE students at Chuckwalla in January, 9 DE students at Streets of Willow in February, and as word spread about how great the school has become, 23 DE students at Chuckwalla in April. As a reminder, the DE school is the initial introduction for driving enthusiasts to see and experience what we do at the big tracks. Some of them become our future instructors or volunteer in other ways to benefit the club. So, here we are approaching the June 5,6 DE school and we have 21 students signed up and only 7 instructors at this time willing to instruct. I am hoping that we can quickly get more instructors to consider taking on a student for the DE school so we don't have to turn anyone away. Please consider helping us out this weekend by taking a student, instructing, mentoring, and changing their world when it comes to understanding the car they drive. We are working hard on increasing the size of our instructor roster to handle the increased student demand and will do so over the summer break to avoid the situation we are in now. Please help if you can. There are significant financial breaks for those that instruct.
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Re: Willow Springs DE/TT June 5,6

Postby Tom Helvey on Sat May 22, 2021 8:57 pm

Hey Mark,
Give me a Green guy to work with, I'll give you a Yellow guy in return.
I would love to teach what I can. Let me know if I can help.
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Re: Willow Springs DE/TT June 5,6

Postby Tom Helvey on Sun May 30, 2021 6:24 am

POC will be at Streets, should be a lot of Porsche's there.
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Re: Willow Springs DE/TT June 5,6

Postby Steve Grosekemper on Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:36 am

For those leaving early Friday check traffic.
Two major issues on the 15N
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Re: Willow Springs DE/TT June 5,6

Postby Tom Helvey on Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:54 pm

Near miss. Got black flagged for this.
https://youtu.be/g79tTYsRoh8
Glad I missed. :)
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Re: Willow Springs DE/TT June 5,6

Postby rwalker on Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:56 am

Here’s a video of my fastest lap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1waCnKvazg

I’d love to hear your opinion, especially if you have advice on how I can be faster.

Thanks,
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Re: Willow Springs DE/TT June 5,6

Postby Tom Helvey on Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:41 pm

rwalker wrote:video of my fastest lap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1waCnKvazg

Feedback welcome.

How did you get the RPM and gear indicators to work?
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Re: Willow Springs DE/TT June 5,6

Postby rwalker on Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:58 pm

Tom Helvey wrote:
rwalker wrote:video of my fastest lap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1waCnKvazg

Feedback welcome.

How did you get the RPM and gear indicators to work?

If your camera is like mine (AIM SmartyCam 2.something?), there are config items for the camera to tell it how to interpret bus data coming from the OBD2 connnection.
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Re: Willow Springs DE/TT June 5,6

Postby 911TED on Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:05 am

When Turn 9 has some double cones placed on the outside turn in point, you can hold a tighter inside line with that visual reference and get good straight line braking too. Looking out to NO where for a braking aim point is not helpful IMO
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Re: Willow Springs DE/TT June 5,6

Postby Tom Helvey on Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:54 pm

911TED wrote:When Turn 9 has some double cones placed on the outside turn in point, you can hold a tighter inside line with that visual reference and get good straight line braking too. Looking out to NO where for a braking aim point is not helpful IMO

Yep, learned that the hard way this weekend. https://youtu.be/DnwlZ3r9AjY
There is a little bit of straight at the end of 8 that you need to look for to brake and drift left. There isn't much so you really need to look for it, can't rely on cones there.
If you see it, setting up for 9 is relatively easy and it just takes a few cajones to drive fast.
If you miss it, you're screwed.
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Re: Willow Springs DE/TT June 5,6

Postby afilsinger on Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:34 am

rwalker wrote:Here’s a video of my fastest lap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1waCnKvazg

I’d love to hear your opinion, especially if you have advice on how I can be faster.


Great lap Rob! I don't see much I would do differently.


    Turn 2: I think you can carry more speed here, although it seems like you were fighting the front end. Bad tires? My vMin is 90-92 in my BSR here, with just a partial lift at turn in to set the nose, then back to full throttle.
    Turn 3: you are cheating left and braking on a diagonal - Unless defending in a race I try to stay further right and delay my turn in here as much as possible.
    Turn 4: you are cheating right and pinching the corner more than I do as well. I'm not sure if the data would say this is faster or not, but starting more left allows you to get back to power harder and extend the downhill straight to 5. It would be interesting to try both back to back and see what the data says.
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Re: Willow Springs DE/TT June 5,6

Postby Cajundaddy on Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:02 pm

rwalker wrote:Here’s a video of my fastest lap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1waCnKvazg

I’d love to hear your opinion, especially if you have advice on how I can be faster.

Thanks,
Rob


Looks like a lot of fun and as usual, you Walkered it! :rockon:

Apex speeds look great and I agree with Alex on the minor adjustments to your line. That said you are 2 sec faster than me in very similar street cars so... :surr:
Looking forward to running with SDR in the fall and I may need to get a right seat session with you and watch the magic happen.

Cheers! :beerchug:
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Re: Willow Springs DE/TT June 5,6

Postby rwalker on Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:46 pm

Cajundaddy wrote:
rwalker wrote:Here’s a video of my fastest lap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1waCnKvazg

I’d love to hear your opinion, especially if you have advice on how I can be faster.

Thanks,
Rob


Looks like a lot of fun and as usual, you Walkered it! :rockon:

Apex speeds look great and I agree with Alex on the minor adjustments to your line. That said you are 2 sec faster than me in very similar street cars so... :surr:
Looking forward to running with SDR in the fall and I may need to get a right seat session with you and watch the magic happen.

Cheers! :beerchug:


Thanks for weighing in, Dave. I'd be happy to have you right-seating a session next time we're together.

My 3 is a bad habit from racing at Big Willow. I honestly don't even know how to turn in if I'm all the way right. I will endeavor to improve.

My 4 is an attempt to shorten my path while taking advantage of some elevation changes mid-corner that gets me rotated without having to slow. It's a low-probability play but I've had a lot of recent practice.

Alex: can you define "pinching" as you're using it? My definition for "pinching" is "failure to track out" or "continuing a turn after apex". If your definition is the same as mine, can you tell me which part of 4 (a or b) you're applying it?

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Re: Willow Springs DE/TT June 5,6

Postby afilsinger on Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:23 pm

rwalker wrote:
My 4 is an attempt to shorten my path while taking advantage of some elevation changes mid-corner that gets me rotated without having to slow. It's a low-probability play but I've had a lot of recent practice.

Alex: can you define "pinching" as you're using it? My definition for "pinching" is "failure to track out" or "continuing a turn after apex". If your definition is the same as mine, can you tell me which part of 4 (a or b) you're applying it?


Similar definition, but in this case I am applying it to the beginning of the corner. You are narrowing the track more than I do before turn in (I let the car get most of the way out to the track boundary before rotating and shooting down the hill), vs starting from roughly mid track. This lets me get on the power sooner, and harder extending the straight down the hill. Its possible this is unnecessary in your Boxster, I still need to look at the data you sent me to confirm. Here is an example of what I mean: https://youtu.be/-QL5PpO9MeU?t=43
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