kary wrote:...given all the misclassifications and missed points on so many cars, particularly those RS America's.
Kathump - I swear I just heard an RS America get thrown under a bus.
That's awsome. I didn't even have to do it.
kary wrote:...given all the misclassifications and missed points on so many cars, particularly those RS America's.
kary wrote: I do not find WSIR much of a technical challenge to driver. It is just a big balls track with little reward for good technical driving......sorry!
Mike wrote:kary wrote: I do not find WSIR much of a technical challenge to driver. It is just a big balls track with little reward for good technical driving......sorry!
I find Big Willow with the elevation changes, higher speeds and run off areas more interesting than California Speedway.
Imho it takes bigger stones at CS to go flat out through the long NASCAR T1+2 with the outside wall just 2 or 3 lanes above you.
Jad wrote:Well, if you'd love to hear opinions .....
Kary, I think you just had a bad weekend, but you gotta keep driving Big Willow, it is the track that offers everything both good and bad and sets the time for all of the SoCal Benchracing.
See what happens when you ask for opinions, you get'em
kary wrote: Youir comments about buttonwillow are interesting also. I find that track very easy to drive safely and fast. Very technical as is substantiated by the last time trail times for some folks.
MVZ944T wrote:Well I will through my two cents worth in.
Kary, I think you are mistaken about turns 3, 4, and 5 and 6. There can be some time gained in these corners depending on the line. I have picked up a good deal of time in this section by using a somewhat different line than most. I agree with Jad also about turn 5 and 6. You need a good exit from 5 and 6 to get the most down the back straight and into 8. I will agree that it is not the most technical track around and it does take some conjones to get around 8 and 9. All things considered, I have picked up a good 2-3 seconds on the track for last year and I don't think that I am going around 8-9 much faster now than I did then. Most of my increase has been from 2 through 6.
From a safety standpoint, I have made the scary run from early in 9 toward the wall and to whomever made the comment that it is a long way off needs to hit the dirt there at over 100mph and see just how close it really is. I would agree that turn 8-9 can have sme pretty hairy consequences, but I would disagree with those comments about Fontana being safer. Soft wall or not, I don't want to hit the banking wall. While your initial contact my be slightly lessened, your chances of bouncing back into the track and oncoming traffic is very high. But more than that, there is a whole lot of concrete in the infield. Just because you may be driving parallel to them does not mean you cannot hit them head on (Dale Earnhart for example). having said that, I really like Fontana.
Buttonwillow certainly has its hazards, but virtually all tracks do. I think the worst thing about BW is the soil is so soft that if you get sideways your chances of rolling are greater than if the soil was firmer. Particularly at speed. All those names in the parking area are there for a reason. As far as bus stop claiming the two lives last year, in my opinion, that was caused by pure stupidity, not by that section of the track being hazardous.
Bottom line in my opinion is you can (and should) be able to learn something from most any track, so while I like some better than others, I try to drive as many as I can.
Tim Comeau wrote: I like your idea of taking any official posted time during the weekend as your representative fastest lap. There's no traffic during timed laps, but everybody should be able to rip off a few good clean laps during the weekend in the "open" sessions?
The POC was wading in to this type of timing for their TT's last year.
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