Gas Prices

[Kenyon Blower]

Just when you think we have it bad in San Diego.....

I am in Atlanta for a Superbike race at Road Atlanta. There is a rumor that Atlanta will run out of gas this weekend because of Hurricane Katrina. This has caused a rush to buy gas. The lines are out into the streets. Many stations are closing at nights. Many of the station owners are now gouging the buyers. Prices yesterday were around $2.50/gallon. It went to $2.85 today. Then the gouging began. Most stations have now raised it to over $3.50/gallon. One station was selling premium for $6.07/gallon & lines were still out into the streets. I have personally seen 2 fights when people thought others were trying to cut into line.

BTW, officials state that it is just a rumor. They say Atlanta is NOT in danger of running out of gas.

Kenyon

[kary]

Not much new there, here in San Diego the regular price is around 2.95 with desiel at 3.25 a gallon.

[Dan Chambers]

One station was selling premium for $6.07/gallon & lines were still out into the streets. I have personally seen 2 fights when people thought others were trying to cut into line.

BTW, officials state that it is just a rumor. They say Atlanta is NOT in danger of running out of gas.

Kenyon

Wow! Scary stuff going on with the extended impacts of H. Katrina. I'm glad I'm not in the south or on the east coast right now. Kenyon, hurry home, dude!

On our recent road trip to Santa Barbara we got 25 MPG (okay, 24.8 to be exact) in the 18-year old 944 cruising at between 70 to 80 on open fwy., and lots of stop-and-go through LA/San Fernando Valley. With that kind of mileage, I have less incentive to drive the V-8 Dodge. (Oh darn, more seat time in the P-car )

Getting there isn't half the fun, it's all the fun when you own a Porsche.....

[gulf911]

Getting there isn't half the fun, it's all the fun when you own a Porsche.....

Dan.. Dan.. Dan....always trying to be funny....944...Porsche?

[JamesWilson]

My 924 Turbo is an Audi

hehe

FWIW, there is a station in Poway that mistakenly has Diesel #2 for $2.11/gal instead of $3.11/gal---guy behind me in a pickup was ecstatic!

-JamesW

[MikeD]

FWIW, there is a station in Poway that mistakenly has Diesel #2 for $2.11/gal instead of $3.11/gal---guy behind me in a pickup was ecstatic!

-JamesW

Dang did they try and up the bill? Where is it? Darn I just topped off the other day, probably only have room for 10 or so gal .

[Dan Chambers]

Dan.. Dan.. Dan....always trying to be funny....944...Porsche?

Oh Brother, not that again! Yea yea...... okay. Audi / Volkswagen / Water-pumper ... engine in the wrong place ...... yawn .....ZZZZZZZZ. Whatever!

(Okay ... smack talk disclaimer: It's all in fun here, folks.)

Whatever you want to call it, it's aways entertaining when a car in KP class with 4 cylinders and less displacement (Two that I can think of: Capt. Nemo and B. Ibbitson) can leave you 6-cylinder "PORSCHES" in AM class in the dust and wishing for more ... something ..... at both the AX and Big tracks. Whatever you want to call what you are losing to, you're still losing to these 4-cylinder 2.5L to 3.0L cars in your 3.2-litre 6-cylinder AM cars.

Now, if you really want to show off the power and awsome performance of your '73 Livery'd 3.2L AM car, bring it to OB, we have a lot of loose leaves and debris that need moving and your Blue and Orange Gulf lawn blower would be just the tool we could use. We don't have a lawn blower so we can't put out quite the hotair that you can ..... Oh, and your car puts out a lot of hot air , too!

D-)

[martinreinhardt]

My 924 Turbo is an Audi

The rumors has it that the "Audi 100" used the Porsche design engine designed by VW. Similar was the 914 in europe also called VWPorsche. Eitherway they use the same engine. The 944 actually uses half of the 928 engine not Audi or VW.

Today similar story with the Cayenne and Touareg. VW and Prosche are brothers or cusins it is just the way it is.

[Jad]

Being an Audi isn't exactly a bad things these days. They have totally dominated the LeMans style racing for years and the only time they didn't win LeMans is when they rebadged the car as a Bentley and the Bentley won. So the 'Audi' has finished ahead of Porsche in all the recent races. No wonder the 'audi' powered 924/944 type cars beat so many "Porsches"

[Curt]

Whatever you want to call it, it's aways entertaining when a car in KP class with 4 cylinders and less displacement (Two that I can think of: Capt. Nemo and B. Ibbitson) can leave you 6-cylinder "PORSCHES" in AM class in the dust and wishing for more ... something ..... at both the AX and Big tracks. Whatever you want to call what you are losing to, you're still losing to these 4-cylinder 2.5L to 3.0L cars in your 3.2-litre 6-cylinder AM cars.

D-)

Top 10 Times

1.)AM 95 Kinninger, Mark 1972 911 T 83.95 84.21 86.38 83.95 2
2.)AM 295 Kinninger, Erik 1984 911 84.85 87.13 84.85 87.1 5
3.)AM 600 Smith, Clark 1973 911 T 85.57 86.6 86.03 85.57 8
4.)PS 861 Eguina, Steven 2001 996 TT 85.88 86.59 86.3 85.88 7
5.)PS 17 Dente, Steve 2004 GT3 86.14 86.14 105.75 86.45 10
6.)KI 14 Binford, Jim 1993 911 RSA 86.77 86.77 87.32 87.97 12
7.)KI 38 Gagnon, Bob 1992 911 87.07 87.39 87.54 87.07 14
8.)PS 136 Dente, Denise 2004 GT3 87.24 87.65 87.24 107.08 16
9.)KP 4 Brand, Bob 1993 911 RSA 87.41 88.49 87.41 87.99 3
10.)KP 83 Duncan, Jad 1988 944 Turbo S 87.51 88.32 88.35 87.51

I wonder if this is how it will feel when I have to tell my son that Santa Claus is not real.

[Tim Comeau]

Please, let's end the confusion.
The only AUDI engine is in the 2.0 liter 924 series cars. The 2.5 liter 4 cylinder in the 944's and later is pure Porsche design. Yes, it's half of the 928 engine.

[Dan Chambers]

Whatever you want to call it, it's aways entertaining when a car in KP class with 4 cylinders and less displacement (Two that I can think of: Capt. Nemo and B. Ibbitson) can leave you 6-cylinder "PORSCHES" in AM class in the dust and wishing for more ... something ..... at both the AX and Big tracks. Whatever you want to call what you are losing to, you're still losing to these 4-cylinder 2.5L to 3.0L cars in your 3.2-litre 6-cylinder AM cars.

D-)

Top 10 Times

1.)AM 95 Kinninger, Mark 1972 911 T 83.95 84.21 86.38 83.95 2
2.)AM 295 Kinninger, Erik 1984 911 84.85 87.13 84.85 87.1 5
3.)AM 600 Smith, Clark 1973 911 T 85.57 86.6 86.03 85.57 8
4.)PS 861 Eguina, Steven 2001 996 TT 85.88 86.59 86.3 85.88 7
5.)PS 17 Dente, Steve 2004 GT3 86.14 86.14 105.75 86.45 10
6.)KI 14 Binford, Jim 1993 911 RSA 86.77 86.77 87.32 87.97 12
7.)KI 38 Gagnon, Bob 1992 911 87.07 87.39 87.54 87.07 14
8.)PS 136 Dente, Denise 2004 GT3 87.24 87.65 87.24 107.08 16
9.)KP 4 Brand, Bob 1993 911 RSA 87.41 88.49 87.41 87.99 3
10.)KP 83 Duncan, Jad 1988 944 Turbo S 87.51 88.32 88.35 87.51

I wonder if this is how it will feel when I have to tell my son that Santa Claus is not real.

Standings for Event: 2005-01-30 @West Lot
Top 10 Times

Class Car Number Name Car Year Car Model Best Time 1st Time 2nd Time 3rd Time BRI Position

1)PP 249 Gunn-Wilkinson, James 2002 GT2 77.07 77.48 77.07 77.31 2
2)PS 17 Dente, Steve 2004 GT3 80.07 80.57 80.07 80.93 7
3)KP 491 Ibbetson, Bill 1994 968 80.92 81.16 82.3 80.92 1
4)AM 600 Smith, Clark 1973 911 T 80.97 82.12 80.97 88.04 16
5)JI 95 Kinninger, Mark 0 81.02 83.31 81.02 81.36 10
6)PS 136 Dente, Denise 2004 GT3 81.45 82.83 82.09 81.45 18
7)MI 529 O'Connor, Chris 1995 993 C4 81.81 81.81 87.94 DNR 40
8.)KP 594 Reinhardt, Martin 1990 911 C2 82.25 82.56 82.25 82.62 6
9)KP 4 Brand, Bob 1993 911 RSA 82.33 DNR 82.45 82.33 8
10)PP 264 Rady, Harry 2002 GT2 82.7 82.7 85.65 84.8 51

Standings for Event: 2004-10-09 @Qualcomm - West Lot
Top 10 Times

Class Car Number Name Car Year Car Model Best Time 1st Time 2nd Time 3rd Time BRI Position

1)KP 491 Ibbetson, Bill 1994 968 85.11 85.11 85.51 89.27 3 2)JI 975 East, Burl 1993 911 RSA 85.29 88.25 86.87 85.29 13
3)AM 600 Smith, Clark 1973 911 T 85.75 87.6 85.75 87.8 10
4)KS 904 Brand, Bob 1993 911 RSA 86.5 89.56 86.5 91.81 2
5)KP 594 Reinhardt, Martin 1990 911 C2 86.62 86.72 86.62 93.29 5
6)KP 62 Marguglio, David 1993 911 RSA 86.65 86.65 87.27 89.32 7
7)JI 95 Kinninger, Mark 0 86.66 86.77 88.74 86.66 25
JI 43 Comeau, Tom 1993 911 87.23 91.44 87.82 87.23 32
9)AM 260 Smith, Austin 1970 914 87.5 88.84 87.5 88.28 26
10)NSS 54 Heimburge, Neil 1997 993 TT 87.69 87.69 DNR 88.82 9

And this is just A-X's.

How 'bout TT's and the Andrews / Anderson vs. Duncan?

Standings for Event: 2005-06-05 @Buttonwillow - Clockwise/Star Mazda

KP 83 Duncan,Jad 1988 944 Turbo S 128.17 128.17 128.59 No Info 3 20
AM 2 Andrews,Dan 1973 911 T 131.32 131.32 131.49 No Info 23 15
AM 29 Anderson,Curt 1973 911 T 131.76 131.76 132.84 No Info 26 12
AM 255 Risvold,John 1973 911 E 132.54 132.54 134.43 No Info 27 10



OUCH!! Jad schooled you in his 2.5 litre, 4-cylinder Porsche water pumper vs. your 3.? litre 6 cylinder 911 by 3.59 seconds, at the same track, on the same day. That 911 of yours is really impressive. and Dan A. was "educated" by 3.15 seconds in his 3.2 - 6 cylinder livery'd 911.

Your data is incomplete. No validation. No date. No event title. Just numbers. At best, contestable data.

Curt, anyone can skew the data paradigm for their own fantasies and dreams . Looks like reality isn't one of your strong suits. Curt... Curt.... Curt! Wake up! No... it's not a dream, son. You really did lose to a 2.5 litre water-pumping Porsche by OVER 3 seconds. As I said before: "Whatever you want to call what you are losing to, you're still losing to these 4-cylinder 2.5L to 3.0L cars in your 3.2-litre 6-cylinder AM cars." Now, I have to go wake up Dan A. (sigh.... poor buggers!)

( Is that all you got?)

DC

[kary]

Whatever you want to call it, it's aways entertaining when a car in KP class with 4 cylinders and less displacement (Two that I can think of: Capt. Nemo and B. Ibbitson) can leave you 6-cylinder "PORSCHES" in AM class in the dust and wishing for more ... something ..... at both the AX and Big tracks. Whatever you want to call what you are losing to, you're still losing to these 4-cylinder 2.5L to 3.0L cars in your 3.2-litre 6-cylinder AM cars.

D-)

Top 10 Times

1.)AM 95 Kinninger, Mark 1972 911 T 83.95 84.21 86.38 83.95 2
2.)AM 295 Kinninger, Erik 1984 911 84.85 87.13 84.85 87.1 5
3.)AM 600 Smith, Clark 1973 911 T 85.57 86.6 86.03 85.57 8
4.)PS 861 Eguina, Steven 2001 996 TT 85.88 86.59 86.3 85.88 7
5.)PS 17 Dente, Steve 2004 GT3 86.14 86.14 105.75 86.45 10
6.)KI 14 Binford, Jim 1993 911 RSA 86.77 86.77 87.32 87.97 12
7.)KI 38 Gagnon, Bob 1992 911 87.07 87.39 87.54 87.07 14
8.)PS 136 Dente, Denise 2004 GT3 87.24 87.65 87.24 107.08 16
9.)KP 4 Brand, Bob 1993 911 RSA 87.41 88.49 87.41 87.99 3
10.)KP 83 Duncan, Jad 1988 944 Turbo S 87.51 88.32 88.35 87.51

I wonder if this is how it will feel when I have to tell my son that Santa Claus is not real.

Standings for Event: 2005-01-30 @West Lot
Top 10 Times

Class Car Number Name Car Year Car Model Best Time 1st Time 2nd Time 3rd Time BRI Position

1)PP 249 Gunn-Wilkinson, James 2002 GT2 77.07 77.48 77.07 77.31 2
2)PS 17 Dente, Steve 2004 GT3 80.07 80.57 80.07 80.93 7
3)KP 491 Ibbetson, Bill 1994 968 80.92 81.16 82.3 80.92 1
4)AM 600 Smith, Clark 1973 911 T 80.97 82.12 80.97 88.04 16
5)JI 95 Kinninger, Mark 0 81.02 83.31 81.02 81.36 10
6)PS 136 Dente, Denise 2004 GT3 81.45 82.83 82.09 81.45 18
7)MI 529 O'Connor, Chris 1995 993 C4 81.81 81.81 87.94 DNR 40
8.)KP 594 Reinhardt, Martin 1990 911 C2 82.25 82.56 82.25 82.62 6
9)KP 4 Brand, Bob 1993 911 RSA 82.33 DNR 82.45 82.33 8
10)PP 264 Rady, Harry 2002 GT2 82.7 82.7 85.65 84.8 51

Standings for Event: 2004-10-09 @Qualcomm - West Lot
Top 10 Times

Class Car Number Name Car Year Car Model Best Time 1st Time 2nd Time 3rd Time BRI Position

1)KP 491 Ibbetson, Bill 1994 968 85.11 85.11 85.51 89.27 3 2)JI 975 East, Burl 1993 911 RSA 85.29 88.25 86.87 85.29 13
3)AM 600 Smith, Clark 1973 911 T 85.75 87.6 85.75 87.8 10
4)KS 904 Brand, Bob 1993 911 RSA 86.5 89.56 86.5 91.81 2
5)KP 594 Reinhardt, Martin 1990 911 C2 86.62 86.72 86.62 93.29 5
6)KP 62 Marguglio, David 1993 911 RSA 86.65 86.65 87.27 89.32 7
7)JI 95 Kinninger, Mark 0 86.66 86.77 88.74 86.66 25
JI 43 Comeau, Tom 1993 911 87.23 91.44 87.82 87.23 32
9)AM 260 Smith, Austin 1970 914 87.5 88.84 87.5 88.28 26
10)NSS 54 Heimburge, Neil 1997 993 TT 87.69 87.69 DNR 88.82 9

And this is just A-X's.

How 'bout TT's and the Andrews / Anderson vs. Duncan?

Standings for Event: 2005-06-05 @Buttonwillow - Clockwise/Star Mazda

KP 83 Duncan,Jad 1988 944 Turbo S 128.17 128.17 128.59 No Info 3 20
AM 2 Andrews,Dan 1973 911 T 131.32 131.32 131.49 No Info 23 15
AM 29 Anderson,Curt 1973 911 T 131.76 131.76 132.84 No Info 26 12
AM 255 Risvold,John 1973 911 E 132.54 132.54 134.43 No Info 27 10



OUCH!! Jad schooled you in his 2.5 litre, 4-cylinder Porsche water pumper vs. your 3.? litre 6 cylinder 911 by 3.59 seconds, at the same track, on the same day. That 911 of yours is really impressive. and Dan A. was "educated" by 3.15 seconds in his 3.2 - 6 cylinder livery'd 911.

Your data is incomplete. No validation. No date. No event title. Just numbers. At best, contestable data.

Curt, anyone can skew the data paradigm for their own fantasies and dreams . Looks like reality isn't one of your strong suits. Curt... Curt.... Curt! Wake up! No... it's not a dream, son. You really did lose to a 2.5 litre water-pumping Porsche by OVER 3 seconds. As I said before: "Whatever you want to call what you are losing to, you're still losing to these 4-cylinder 2.5L to 3.0L cars in your 3.2-litre 6-cylinder AM cars." Now, I have to go wake up Dan A. (sigh.... poor buggers!)

( Is that all you got?)

DC

Hey, Dan and folks, if you are ok comparing any class (which seems to be the case) why not put up the others that waxed Jad's time by more than....let's just say 4 seconds at Buttonwillow on the same day? Some of these classes are below that of AM even, hmmmmm....

Bill D 1:20.35
Steve 1:21.85
Roland 1:23.97 (Gee Roalnd is in AM, hmmmmm)
Kary 1:25.27 (This is an "I" car, again Hmmmm)
Jack 1:26.18 (Hmmmm, another "I" car)
Mike V 1:26.24 (hey another water pumper!)
Evan 1:27.00 (Hey another pumper )
Bill H 1:27.98 (Holy crap a "P" class car...)
Jad 1:28.17 (Oh, there's Jad, how much boost did you add for that run? )

[gulf911]

hmmm..lets see...how many ax's have I attended this year? zero..

How many ax's had Jad beat me at over the last 2 - 3 years... zero

You talk about Jad's car like its a NA 83 944 running 225's..
Comparing classes Dan? Kary is right, Jads 'turbo' got waxed by an AM car, huge...nice try though... You have lots of partial data, but with little substance...

My appologies to Jad for throwing him under the 944..er uh.. I mean bus...

[Jad]

Ugh, Kary, MOST of those cars did NOT 'wax my time by more than 4 seconds'. Even your own data is wrong And exactly how many of those cars have smaller engines or less power than mine? Zero, zilch, nada, but of course I am ashamed to be beaten in KP by prepared GT3's and other track cars on racing slicks all in higher classes:roll: . My unfair advantage of a stock drivetrain and Toyo RA-1's clearly shows your dominance over my 18 year old waterpumping 944