rshon wrote:So SFI belts with any date of manufacture in 2005 are good for the rest of the year? If that's so, we need to make sure the DE/TT Tech Inspection folks are clear on this point...
Bob Gagnon wrote:Is there a limit on age for the stock 3 point seat belt for Autocross?
If not, it seems a little odd to me that the stock 3 point belts have no age limit, but a 5 or 6 point harness does.
galis wrote:Bob Gagnon wrote:Is there a limit on age for the stock 3 point seat belt for Autocross?
If not, it seems a little odd to me that the stock 3 point belts have no age limit, but a 5 or 6 point harness does.
Yes, it's in the rules, and I think it is 20 years for 3 point stock. Quite a bit longer than 5/6 point. I understand it has to do with construction standards and ratings for the materials etc.
Bob Gagnon wrote:I read the red below to mean that there is no age limit on OEM belts where they are legal for all Autocross classes and Street Stock and Stock classes for Time Trial events and that only a visual assessment of condition is made at tech inspection for an OEM belt.
However a 5 or 6 point harness must be replaced at 5 years no matter what the condition for all competitors using one in any Autocross or TT class whether required in the class or not.
It still seems a little odd to me that someone with a good condition 5 year old, 5 or 6 point harness will be turned away at an Autocross tech inspection when a 25 year old OEM belt in good conditon will be passed. I can see this criterion for a Time Trial, but an Autocross at Qualcomm???
A. For all Autocross entrants and Time Trial / DE entrants in classes Street Stock and Stock, at least fully functional OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) style 3 point seatbelts are required. Belts that are visibly frayed, damaged or dysfunctional must be replaced with new belts.
Two point belts are acceptable for Autocross if the car did not originally come with seatbelts or only came with 2 point belts OEM. For Time Trial / DE three point belts are required (when the vehicle does not require a 5 or 6 point harness).
B. For Time Trial and DE, five or six-point harnesses are required for all drivers and passengers running in any Prepared class or higher and are strongly recommended for all entrants. 5 or 6-point harnesses are allowed at Autocross events, but they are not required.
Harnesses are required to be SFI or FIA approved for competition and mounted in the manufacturer approved configuration. Any harness approved for club racing is acceptable when installed according to the manufacturer’s instructions. Evidence of this approval shall be provided by the driver, if necessary.
While an approved competition seat is not required on its own, many harness manufacturers require it for proper harness installation. If harnesses are installed and the seat is not an SFI or FIA approved competition seat, the entrant needs to bring documentation to prove that the installation follows the manufacturer’s instructions.
Five and six-point restraint systems over five (5) years old; of questionable condition, design, material or mounting; which are not installed according to the manufacturer’s directions; which eliminate substantial contact of the lap belt with the occupant; or which are in any way unsafe; will be disallowed. Belt age is measured from the last day of the year of manufacture (Dec 31).
So SFI belts with any date of manufacture in 2005 are good for the rest of the year? If that's so, we need to make sure the DE/TT Tech Inspection folks are clear on this point...
There will be retraining/reminders sent to the crew before the next event.
Official retraining to follow.
Bob
Yes.
This is a really involved discussion that I do not want to get to deeply into as it has been over discussed over the last few years.
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