So I sent in my comments in reference to certain proposals.
I am posting a copy of that email to help get support by other members to send in there comments to keep this hobby/sport fun and not make all these rules that will suck the life out of that.
Please email your comments to
ruleproposals@zone8.orgDon't just sit around and do nothing when you can actually make a difference.
I also encourage others to place a copy of there comments here as well.
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**Driving Event Proposal #4b – Zone 8 Solo Permit Endorsement for “DE Qualified Only”
Currently you can not solo drive unless your instructor gives recommendation and signs you off, and CDI goes on a test drive with you which I believe has been a good way to make sure a driver is ready for solo driving since we have very good instructors and excellent CDI’s.
**Driving Event Proposal #4c – Zone 8 Solo Permit Endorsement for “Electronic Aides Required”
To begin with how can you even enforce a rule like this since a solo driver at any time can turn off his TC/ESC without anyone knowing, and to encourage someone to drive without these safety features sounds like a recipe for disaster.
People should be able to turn these safety features off as they feel more comfortable with the car not just to get a stamp in their log book.
** Drivers Using Electronic Aids Must Place an “N” Across the Rear Window
Now this is the biggest joke of them all… You want people you drive with an N on their car because they use their TC/ESC?
To begin with this is not a current issue and does not solve or help anything moving forward other then to mock people who drive with these SAFTEY features on.
If anything, it should be the opposite where a car with NO TC/ESC safety features should have a big NO on the back of there cars since it seems those are the cars going off track more often and should be able to warn others of their danger.
Let me also add that the N for “Nannies” is a derogatory term referring to a car that takes no driver skill to drive since the car is driving itself with the “Nannies”.
** Driving Event Proposal #5 – Separate Performance Package Points Assessment for 997/991 GT2RS and GT3RS
To give 100 points just for the word RS is just crazy.
The person who obviously made these proposals don’t actually know the difference between the GT3 and RS.
To begin with there is no differences in gear ratio which can be looked up on provided Car and Driver link below where it shows all gear ratios for both cars.
The down force on the 991.1 RS is fully achieved at 150mph and since we don’t go to many tracks where we can even hit 150mph, it is a moot point.
Actually one could argue that the larger wing on the RS might even create more drag compared to the GT3 which would not be a positive add to the tracks we go to.
There really isn’t that much different between a GT3 and a RS, 0 to 60 on a GT3 is 3.1, on an RS, it is 3.0. The main difference between them is 25HP, and there is only a 20lb difference in weight.
A GT3 is a class lower then the RS at CC14 where a stock RS is CC15, and with better then stock tires are CC16 so according to zone8 point system the RS is already considered a higher level car then the GT3.
One major advantage the RS DOES have over the GT3 is being able to put bigger tires on them, but get penalized for the wider tires by quite a few points.
**My personal comments about these proposals, it is very obvious that one person wrote all these proposals and is really trying to target RS cars for no real reason other then his own agenda.
All these proposals do is cause unwanted drama in the club and could cause a lot of resentment between drivers and ultimately cause larger safety issues trying to encourage people to drive without their TC/ESC on before they are ready to do such a thing, not to mention that GT cars work completely different when it comes to their TC/ESC, they have a much larger envelope then non-GT cars and really only kick in when you really need it helping you get out of a “Oh ****” moment a lot easier.
These proposals were more than likely made by someone who drives an older car without these safety features and really don’t have much knowledge of how these GT cars work but assumes that the car drives itself which is a whole other controversy going on right now within the club which I really wish would just stop.
I really enjoy going out to the track with PCA and all the amazing genuine friends I have made along the way that I know will be in my life for a long time.
It is really unfortunate that a small group of people try to find reasons to make this not fun for some of us simple because we are getting faster lap times then before.
When we were slower there were no issues, but now that we are getting faster and showing up on the top times of the day they feel it must be because the car is doing most of the work and we should get penalized for this.
Lets all remember we are not doing this for the prize money and just want to go out and have fun and make friends because at the end of the day that what this is all about, along with going home to your family in one piece.
Thank you for your time and consideration,
Alain Stad
Car and Driver:
https://www.caranddriver.com/porsche/91 ... upe-gt3-rs