Harness and Seat rules for 2008

[Bob Gagnon]

Jad is right, this is no time to question the rules.

Having said that, I think it is a rare bird who reads the fine points of the safety rules since most are concerned with class points changes only.

So, my question is why does a 5 or 6 point harness have to be replaced in 5 years and a factory belt replaced in 20 years?

Where is the data to support that spread of years? One seems short, the other too long.

[John Straub]

Bob, this is not the time to be questioning anything.

However that's a good question.

[LShipman]

Ron if I get my new seats in you can look and see if you want my Sparco Evo II's that I'm taking out. I hope to make the swap this weekend.

Hey ... those were our seats ... what are you doing giving them to Ron???

[993Panzer]

Ron if I get my new seats in you can look and see if you want my Sparco Evo II's that I'm taking out. I hope to make the swap this weekend.

Hey ... those were our seats ... what are you doing giving them to Ron???

OOPS.... My bad. You guys look so much alike I get you confused. Maybe I need to put my glasses on.

[ronaldtrotter]

Okay, Perry one of has been insulted. I'm not going to say who I think it was.

[PShipman]

Ron if I get my new seats in you can look and see if you want my Sparco Evo II's that I'm taking out. I hope to make the swap this weekend.

Hey ... those were our seats ... what are you doing giving them to Ron???

OOPS.... My bad. You guys look so much alike I get you confused. Maybe I need to put my glasses on.

Okay, Perry one of has been insulted. I'm not going to say who I think it was.

I can see that Dave had a great time at the Eastern Races ... I wonder if he and his brother are like the preverbial Alaskan hunting party ... sit in a cafe drinking lots of whiskey ... ready to watch a race if a car happens to come by That is probably why he is still having problems telling anything appart!

Seriously, though, the Evo's would also look great in Ron's new Spec Car ... I wouldn't you, Dave, toooo hard a time if you confused Ron with me over the seats!

[bibbetson]

I've seen data, especially on harness manufacturers sites, about the breaking strength of the material falling off sharply over years of use / exposure. From what I've read five years sounds like a decent average. Factory information is a little harder to come by and I really have no comment on that. I will say that the materials used in harnesses and the way the they are designed to work are drastically different in their design and purpose then factory belts.

So, my question is why does a 5 or 6 point harness have to be replaced in 5 years and a factory belt replaced in 20 years?

Where is the data to support that spread of years? One seems short, the other too long.

[ronaldtrotter]

Okey-dokey then thats settled. Dave, when can I pick up the seats and my shirt. Of course I'm not meaning to be pushy here.

[PShipman]

Gosh Trotter ... you are fast on the draw for sure!

You do know that he only got you a Medium, right????

[ronaldtrotter]

Well hey, I'll just take the shirt to my seamstress and have her sew the graphics on my Grateful Dead shirt. As to quick on the draw. I just wish I was as quick on the track.

[PShipman]

Grateful Dead shirt.

Aren't they all dead now??? ... didn't they play in the '30s or something like that???

[John Straub]

Hey..Hey..Hey. I remember them.

[cam]

thats why you're the historian

[ronaldtrotter]

The Grateful Dead were Dead when they were recording. It was just the drugs that kept them going. Look at Keith Richards another great of the era. The only reason you see him on the stage is the drugs have not allowed his body to realize he's dead. Look at him he is a prime example of Undertakers skills with makeup.

[John Straub]

Oh...you had to remind me about that.