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Postby Mike on Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:43 pm

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Re: new track?

Postby martinreinhardt on Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:38 pm

This is interesting, it must be that time of the year where everybody tries to build a new race track. :D

Hopefully we will get at least one new track out of this. Willow Springs is definitely outdated from the bad surface, facilities to safety, which is why I never understood why everybody likes that track that much.

I know about the American Performance Drivers Club Project modernizing Willow Springs International Raceway and the Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park Project located in the Antelope Valley Twenty Miles Northwest of Lancaster.
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Re: new track?

Postby davidsq on Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:23 pm

MIKE...
How much time do you have on your hands ?? :?
Get down to Qualtech and start prepin' for primer... :banghead:
you goin' to cut bait or fish... :?:

OR get back to your yard work. :wink:

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Re: new track?

Postby Mike on Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:00 am

hey Dave I like the way you think. :wink:
See ya today.
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Re: new track?

Postby 4est on Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:07 pm

My longtime friend and SEAL colleague is putting together a race track deal in Ocotillo. It looks like it will go, there is a vote in October that will decide. Bill Behun did the design, as I understand. I certainly hope it goes, as a perk of running one of my friend's companies I will get a garage at the track! Google 'Wind Zero track' and see it.
It is different than the one in the link above, but promises to be great.


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Re: new track?

Postby Bill Behun on Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:25 pm

Forrest - Yes, I've worked on the very early conceptual design for the Wind Zero facility. Wind Zero has two pros working on the track design where famous sections from other tracks will be recreated.

Hopefully the vote is in October with the County then formally approving in November. Then we really roll up our sleeves and design, then construction drawings, then construction.

Call Wind Zero now to purhchase a membership and let's get it built! Meanwhile, I'll keep working on our Qualcomm AX layouts!
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Re: new track?

Postby Jad on Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:49 pm

I hope I am wrong, but when I met with the Wind Zero people a couple of years ago, I was not very hopeful. It isn't a racetrack they are building, it is a military training facility like Blackwater, that they invision having a race track, airport, etc within. Very grandious plans, but many many hurtles to overcome.
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Re: new track?

Postby Rsylvestri on Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:06 pm

Jad wrote:I hope I am wrong, but when I met with the Wind Zero people a couple of years ago, I was not very hopeful. It isn't a racetrack they are building, it is a military training facility like Blackwater, that they invision having a race track, airport, etc within. Very grandious plans, but many many hurtles to overcome.


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Re: new track?

Postby Bill Behun on Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:18 pm

Jad - From the meetings I've been in the it will be a Motorsports Park and a Fire/Police/Ambulance driver training facility.
Besides the Fire/Police/Ambulance buildings there will be a clubhouse, small hotel, small retaurant (locals are demanding it), some retail, condominiums, garages, go-kart track.

There is an 'airport' next door with a gravel strip. The owner wanted way too much money for it - at least before the economy turned.

As southern California has urbanized, the places the police/fire did their driver training are gone. There is one place in San Bernadino but it can't handle the demand of all the agencies in Southern California. I hear if the agencies don't meet their minimum hours of proper training, thay are open to losing funding. So, there is a big demand for a new facility. A college in Imperial County wants to use the facility as part of their law enforcement ciriculum. From what I know there will be no private company training - only governmental agencies. I hear there may be a small amount of SEAL training done there.
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Re: new track?

Postby 4est on Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:16 pm

When you lookk at the track layout, there are small arms ranges and mock villages in the southeast corner. There will be tactical and shooting training held there, but the racetrack is the main draw and focus. It is our hope to one day get at least an SCCA race held there. All of the colleges that teach POST and EVOC training are endorsing it, as well as all of the LEA within several hundred miles.

From all that I know, it looks like it will go in at least its current form. Wind Zero is into talks with hoteliers, retailers and the like for future business, and has pretty much all the financing in place.

Like I said, "keep your fingers crossed".
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