944 spec video clip

[Curt]

Tim,
You know we're just having fun with you, being the off-season and all. What else are we going to talk about?

If you guys click on "View Users Other Race Videos" on Tims You Tube page, you will see his other 944 Spec video. This other one is killer as Tim is "establishing position" and "popping out" all over the place.

Here is Tims other NASA 944 Spec video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zcmdTA61Qyc

[gulf911]

Just a good thing that car didn't have a 97 on the door...

Yeah, if it did Tim would have to avoid the oil spill as well....

[gulf911]

Hey Look!! Just change a couple letters...NASA...NASCA....NASCAR!!!....

[Tim Comeau]

Well.....
I don't spit copenhagen and my wife doesn't have any tattoos yet......so it must have been a NASA weekend!

[lowyder993s]

From the NASA rulebook:

102
25.4.2 Punting.
The term “punting” is defined as nose to tail (or side-of-the-nose to side-of-the-tail)
contact, where the leading car is significantly knocked off of the racing line. Once the
trailing car has its front wheel next to the driver of the other vehicle, it is considered that
the trailing car has a right to be there. And, that the leading driver must leave the trailing
driver enough “racing room.” In most cases, “racing room” is defined as “at least three
quarters of one car width.” If adequate racing room is left for the trailing car, and there is
incidental contact made between the cars, the contact will be considered “side-to-side.”
In most cases, incidental side-to-side contact is considered to be “just a racing incident.”
If, in the case of side-to-side contact, one of the two cars leaves the racing surface
(involuntarily) then it may still be considered “a racing incident.”

Had your front wheel been at his door, like in T3 then maybe. But, his door is in view the whole time, he doesn't pinch the corner, you're not on the gaiter...I'd say you got away with one

[Tim Comeau]

Nope. Read the thread. My nose was farther up than it looks. Even after I tried getting out of his way, the nose of my car contacted him just behind the driver's door.

[gulf911]

Ok, I think I see the decieving part. Even though you can clearly see the honda's door, you can't determine where Tims' front fender is in relation. Its decieving because you see Tims dash but the nose of his car is 4-5 feet in front of that. Its not an easy call and it looks very close, however, it looks like the front of Tims car is at the back of the honda's door, Tim's front wheel is not along side the honda's door...so you make the call..

Tim is wondering right now why the hell he put that video up....

[Steve Grosekemper]

Just a good thing that car didn't have a 97 on the door...

Yeah, if it did Tim would have to avoid the oil spill as well....

Ha Ha...
That is funny!
How does someone of your advanced age remember things that happend so long ago...
Oh ya it's the short term memory that you have problems with...

And a lesson I learned long ago... No one in this club will ever let you forget your errors... I think that is what keeps us all driving our best.

Someone recently asked me how long it took before people stopped giving me grief about my huge off at my first WSIR event (2002?)...
I told him I would let him know...

[Tim Comeau]

It's actually even more than that. From the top edge of the hood to the front bumper is right at 5 feet. From the dash to the bumper is just a couple inches shy of 6 feet!
Also, you can see that I didn't have to get up onto the curb for the turn in. I didn't want to cut any bigger radius than I had to. It's a really common rookie mistake to dive for the apex when the car you're attacking is still 20 feet off the turn in point. Ideally, you want to be right next to the defender, just so your mirrors are almost touching. That ensures the biggest possible radius through the turn for your exit speed and more importantly it ensures the defender doesn't scissor back underneath you on the exit.

[kary]

Tim,
You know we're just having fun with you, being the off-season and all. What else are we going to talk about?

If you guys click on "View Users Other Race Videos" on Tims You Tube page, you will see his other 944 Spec video. This other one is killer as Tim is "establishing position" and "popping out" all over the place.

Here is Tims other NASA 944 Spec video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zcmdTA61Qyc

Yes, now that is a NASA, I mean NASCAR, I mean NASA event

But seriously I am sure Tim has made his point to us, right Tim?

For me I will give you the corner to avoid getting punted ( read smiling here )

[Curt]

Exactly Kary! I think Tim has in his own words, "established position" on everybody in this club. Brilliant MIND GAMES he is beating us with. He posts a video of himself punting a poor little Honda and then tells all of us that he did nothing wrong, that the Honda guy was at fault. That THAT is the way Tim rolls. That the Honda guy is lucky Tim backed out of it because he could have punted him into the 30th row if he wanted to.

I hear you Tim... the season hasn't even started and you have the entire club psyched out. You're like the Scott Farkas of PCASDR!

[Tim Comeau]

.....and I would have pulled it off if it weren't for you meddling teenagers!.....

BTW, That video has been viewed over 160 times as of last night and has a 5-star rating! So, I posted another video clip!

[ttweed]

.....and I would have pulled it off if it weren't for you meddling teenagers!.....

This is a tough crowd, Tim. I have to admit that on the video, it doesn't look like you had the corner, even by the "front wheel alongside the other driver" NASA rule, but wide-angle lenses do distort things, and this is only one view of the incident. It seems obvious to me that if the race stewards investigated the contact, they would go to multiple sources, and if the other driver involved as well as the other competitors/cornerworkers in position to witness it said you had established position, then you were exonerated correctly and were not at fault. The video alone does not tell the whole story.

Nevertheless, this kind of "racing incident" is why I never have and never will go W2W racing. The consequences were light in this case, but it can get heavy very easily and very quickly. I am not prepared, physically or financially, to "pay the piper" for the possible worst-case scenario.

More power to you if you are, but all I can say is be careful out there, people!

TT