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Postby mrondeau on Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:29 pm

Steve, Great posts. I think you nailed it. The best part of any Porsche... It's a PORSCHE!!! I started with a 75 911s in 1997 and I've owned an 88 Carrera, 2001 Boxster, 2006 Boxster S and an 84 944. I've loved them all. They're fast, fun and they all have their own quirks and "features". I don't know about everyone else (Chuck Sharp excluded), but I'm always thinking about my next P-car. :burnout:
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Postby Josh Y on Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:37 pm

ok so dont mean to be changing the new topic but...

will a 235 fit on an early offset 8 inch phone dial wheel?
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Postby gulf911 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:17 am

Steve Grosekemper wrote:Dan,
You can take the boy out of the water pumper, but you can't take the water pumper out of the boy...

Maybe I can help you out as a longtime 911 driver. (First 911 drive-1982)
Your ridiculous comments in bold. Sensible explainations following...

Twitchy-Responsive
Noisy-Mechanical symphony.
Abrupt-Highly responsive
Unpredictable-Sounds like a OE to me.
Terrible over-steer tendencies- This is a feature, not a defect... (The pedal in the right will fine tune that feature)
And completely unbalanced weight distribution-So you like wheel spin coming out of tight corners, understeer, and only using the front glass to look down track...
No air conditioner-It had one before you yanked it out...
Old- People in glass houses...
Cramped-Mine is quite roomy...Have you seen what I bring to an AX?
Uncomfortable-Your 6 1/2 feet tall...Are you ever comfortable?
Lousy ergonomics-Everything is laid out where the good doctor intended for it to be. Try reading the owners manual (Oh, the cup of Starbucks goes in the left map pocket forward of the door lever) "Improvise, adapt, overcome, conquer"
Confusing dash switches- What about the light emblem on the headlights has you confused? Or maybe you can't figure out that the red levers mean hot? Ohhh ground breaking...
And climate control- OK- that's really funny. If Al Gore can't do it how do you expect Porsche to? Would you settle for climate suggestion? Roll the window down and drive faster!
No defroster-(Once again see the owners manual)
Cr@ppy wipers-If you drive faster the water races right up and over the windshield.
Blows leaves everywhere-Saves the city money on street sweepers so they can fill a few more pot holes, Jerry Sanders says thanks for doing your part!

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:


That is freakin priceless....  :bowdown: :roflmao:
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Postby Steve Grosekemper on Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:27 am

Mark- You are right, I have loved every Porsche I have ever owned all for very different reasons.

Dan- I am glad you enjoyed it, I almost PM'd you after I hit submit. You and Curt had done so much in this area in the past I was glad to pick up the torch.

Josh/Dan- You guys opened the the door...I just walked in.

On topic.
Josh, the 245 R6's are going to hit unless you use 8x16's off the rear of an 86 951. (23.3mm offset) for the front set.
You also need way more negative camber for those tires. You will just eat up the outside edge off with only -1.5 degrees.
I would run R-888's on 15x7's or 8's all the way around and work on car/driver set-up. Putting overly sticky tires on a stock-ish car masks the problems you are having. (225 R-888's on your 7&8x16's would be my next choice)

There are way too many variables that you haven't even discussed,
(Shocks, sway bars, alignment set-up, suspension bushings) and what you want the car to do that it isn't.

Get one of the really good set-up drivers to drive your car at the next AX and see where it is at. Driving a car fast and driving a car and knowing what it needs to be fast are two very different things.
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Postby Josh Y on Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:27 pm

Steve,

the offset on both the front and the rear of the rims are 23 mm

and i am more inrested in the rim than the tire...

can you fit a 235 on an 8 inch phone dial?
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Postby Steve Grosekemper on Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:46 pm

the offset on both the front and the rear of the rims are 23 mm
OK

and i am more interested in the rim than the tire...
A late offset 8in wheel should fit on an early offset car without hitting.

can you fit a 235 on an 8 inch phone dial?
235-16 is not a commonly available tire. 235's are a 17in size.
If you want to know what tire size fits what wheel check tire Mfg. websites.
Like this.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp? ... ageLocQty=
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Postby Josh Y on Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:13 pm

thanks Dan and Steve
greatly appreciated...  :bowdown:
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