Buttonwillow TT (Nov 21-22) Registration

[gulf911]

I'll be staying at "The Suites" in the lap of Luxury.

Who's Luxury??

[Greg Phillips]

Unfortunately, property taxes trump BW for us, but the food fest will return next year, bigger and better! Oh yeah, the car will be improved as well...

Maybe you should approach the state and Arnold will let you skip the property taxes in exchange for sponsorship on your car

Greg

[Jackie C]

it sounds strange, but what do I have to lose?! I'm still looking for an angle.

[ttweed]

Hey Tom,
Lucky for me, that rule has been fixed.

Fixed? It wasn't ever broken, and it's still the same as it ever was--it hasn't changed. See Sec. II.F in the Zone 8 rulebook: "Entrants may compete in a higher class as long as the car conforms to the rules for that class. Cars may move up vertically or horizontally, but not backwards, into a higher class. A car in class CP, for example, may run in AI or FP, but not in FS."

TT

[Jackie C]

What about body style? I thought 911s are excluded from G class. Do enlighten me.

[Dan Chambers]

Hey Tom,
Lucky for me, that rule has been fixed.

Fixed? It wasn't ever broken, and it's still the same as it ever was--it hasn't changed. See Sec. II.F in the Zone 8 rulebook: "Entrants may compete in a higher class as long as the car conforms to the rules for that class. Cars may move up vertically or horizontally, but not backwards, into a higher class. A car in class CP, for example, may run in AI or FP, but not in FS."

TT

Kidnap warning!
What's this got to do with Buttonwillow and the upcoming Time Trial? Tom, please consider starting a new thread if you want to argue the merits of FP qualifying for GP. This is about TT's and Buttonwillow. You too, Jackie!

Danger ... Off-Topic Ahead! Brake early and in a straight line, turn in smooth, and follow the topic to the apex, then to the track-out point. Swerve off-course at your own risk.

Thank You!

DC

[mrondeau]

Hey Tom,
Lucky for me, that rule has been fixed.

Fixed? It wasn't ever broken, and it's still the same as it ever was--it hasn't changed. See Sec. II.F in the Zone 8 rulebook: "Entrants may compete in a higher class as long as the car conforms to the rules for that class. Cars may move up vertically or horizontally, but not backwards, into a higher class. A car in class CP, for example, may run in AI or FP, but not in FS."

TT

To run in G class, wouldn't you have to conform to the the rules for that class (i.e. be one of these cars in G class: 944 2.5 & 2.7, 924S 2.5, 924 Turbo 2.0, 944S 2.5)?

[Dan Chambers]

Ahh! Eee! Ooooh. Oooow! Ugh! Flashbacks! I'm having flashbacks!! Argh! Ugh! Ooooeeewoooweeooow! Oh, the pain. Oh the Misery! 944's against 911's in the same class. Ohoooggh hu hu hu hu hu wa wa wa wa. Yeeeeeyoooowwwweeeeee! I can't stand it! I CAN'T STAND IT!!!

Bbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Okay. Now that the drugs have taken affect, let's review some facts:

G class is specifically for front engined cars. Is the 911 a front-engined car? (Only when I spin. ) Would it not be DQ'ed for (dare I say it) the "engine being in the wrong place" for that class?
G-class cars weight is roughly 2700 to 3100 lbs wouldn't a light-weight 911 take huge ( I mean HUGE) points for weight reduction based on G-class weight?
G-class cars spot in at roughly 139-HP. Wouldn't a race-modified 911 engine have much bigger HP, (say 160+) or higher displacement issues causing huge ( I mean HUGE) HP/power points based on G-class spec's?
If you add the additional points of weight and HP would you not find yourself in FI class based on G-class regulation points?
G-class cars are 4-cylinder cars. Wouldn't a 911 be DQ'ed for having 6 cylinders?

Uh-oh ... the drugs are wearing off. Argh. Umph! eerrp. Ech! Woooaaaaooaaaoo. EEEsh! Oweeeeoweeee ooooooo!

Gotta go!

[Kim Crosser]

Ya know... If you just put the engine in the middle where it belongs, you wouldn't have to worry about whether it was in front or in back.

[rshon]

I want to drive with Jackie too. If I take out two spark plugs and drive backwards, can I be in G class?

DON'T FORGET TO SIGN UP FOR THE TIME TRIAL AT BUTTONWILLOW. IT WILL BE A GAS! (back on track...)

(...us Boxster guys just have to get a word in edgewise...)

p.s. Why don't we all agree to drive the same car and stop worrying about "Class-consciousness"
(...after the last AX, apparently we will all be driving Kim's car...)

p.p.s. I also understand a couple of "you 944 people" are hiding Boxsters in your garages...

[ttweed]

What's this got to do with Buttonwillow and the upcoming Time Trial? Tom, please consider starting a new thread if you want to argue the merits of FP qualifying for GP.

Like this is the first thread on the forum to ever "tangentiate" off topic?

And after your appeal to not hijack the thread, your next post does what? Pretty much goes on to argue against the notion of FP qualifying for GP, it seems to me. C'mon, Dan! Have it one way or the other, please.

Regardless, I will start a new thread to clarify this rules question so as not to offend or confuse the people who are looking here for information on the Buttonwillow TT.

[Dan Chambers]

What's this got to do with Buttonwillow and the upcoming Time Trial? Tom, please consider starting a new thread if you want to argue the merits of FP qualifying for GP.

Like this is the first thread on the forum to ever "tangentiate" off topic?

And after your appeal to not hijack the thread, your next post does what? Pretty much goes on to argue against the notion of FP qualifying for GP, it seems to me. C'mon, Dan! Have it one way or the other, please.

Regardless, I will start a new thread to clarify this rules question so as not to offend or confuse the people who are looking here for information on the Buttonwillow TT.

Tom, you're absolutely right. My bad. As Tom C. would say; "I should be taken out back and shot." I have failed the forum.

[ttweed]

Tom, you're absolutely right. My bad. As Tom C. would say; "I should be taken out back and shot." I have failed the forum.

It must have been the drugs you mentioned, Dan.

You are welcome to go to the technical forum where I have posted the separate thread about the rules now and fire away.

[Dan Chambers]

It must have been the drugs you mentioned, Dan.

Darned anti-nausea pills.

I'll leave you to play with Jackie and Mark. If I see you at Buttonwillow, GREAT! If not, you'll be missed.

Let's get ready to play at BW!

[Robert]

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming....

Tomorrow (Friday, November 6) is the last day to sign up for Buttonwillow at the lowest price.