PCA SDR

It's been a long time coming and there have been a list of guys that Tami has had her sights on for some time now (why do you think I've been driving like my hair is on fire). You all know who you are as Tami doesn't keep a lot of secrets. Those of us guys on the list have discussed many times between each other that it's only a matter of time before one of us slips up and gets picked off. Well it just so happens that Tami and I were passing by Tom Tweed the other day and he commented that Tami was getting a lot faster and it was only a matter of time before someone got 'chicked'. Tami and I have laughed about Tom's term ever since.

Well, at the Parade autocross it happened. One person in particular and two innocent bystanders "got chicked" and Tami just couldn't help herself from pointing it out in all her glory! (By the way, all three drivers won their respective class, so they did very well in their own right)

Steve Grosekemper in all his wisdom decided a good offense was the best defense and so he made the attached...



Lets see who is man enough to admit that they have been Chicked in the past.

Bill Ibbetson

I hate to say it, but....I've been "Chicked" some years ago by Margie Smith-Haas

You are good men for 'fessing' up! A little humble pie never hurt anyone.

I think I can vouch for the Ladies that we don't mind seeing you guys sweat a little.

Any more confessions?

While Janet took 1st in ladies class of the GT3's at Parade, she also beat 3 of 7 in the men's class. I'm starting to get nervous about getting Chicked by her and think she should join the Prius club instead.

Well ok, I did get beat by Curt at Buttonwillow last time out....

I was painfully thinking back and bad memories of my first year of autocrossing came to me. Every month, Christy Copeman would beat me, and we had taken the Performance Driving School at the same time. One of my best driving days was when I found out she had sold her Boxster and bought a 911.....out of the LSS class. Congratulations to Christy. I think she has Chicked a lot of guys who might not want to admit it.

Congrats to Tami! She set some lofty goals and has worked hard to push herself, not to mention her job on the board.
Heck, I've been "chicked" by several women in our club, both in driving and volunteering. (If you think you're a real man, spend the morning working in the trailer!) So what do you call the reverse? Being "chucked"? Yeah, I've been that too, thanks to Chuck Sharp. Keep going girls and don't look in your mirrors!

4 years ago when Amy was a little pregnant , she drove our Boxster S instead of the racecar as it was smoother and gentler. She got second out of 12 in the MSS class, so the ten men behind her were double chicked as Amy only lost to Denise Dente

bibbetson wrote:Tami and I were passing by Tom Tweed the other day and he commented that Tami was getting a lot faster and it was only a matter of time before someone got 'chicked'.

OMG, Bill, it's a good thing my wife doesn't read this forum, or I would be in big trouble for making such a sexist comment, even in jest. Remember--what gets said in the pits, stays in the pits.

Driving fast isn't just a "guy thing" anymore, obviously, as the inroads into the sport made by Shirley Muldowney, Lyn St. James, Janet Guthrie, etc. have paved the way for Danica Patrick, Sarah Fisher, Katherine Legge, Liz Halliday and Milka Duno, amoung about 1000 other female drivers (see this site) competing at all levels.

I think there are very few guys in our club who haven't been beaten by Denise Dente, since she has had several 2nd TTOD results, and Christy has had a 3rd TTOD overall. I know I've been "skirted" (the other alternative term for "chicked" that I have heard used--remember, you didn't here it from me ) by both of them. Jackie Corwin put a lot of guys up against the wall in 944 Spec last year, for sure, and Kathy Smalley has beaten up on me a few times over the years.

My favorite, though is Nancy James. She is a little grandmother from N. Cal who races with SCCA. How many of you manly-men have gone 1:18 at WSIR? That's what it would take to beat her DSR track record there. That's with a thumping, huge 1000cc (1-liter) displacement car!

Hang your heads,
TT

Nice driving by the ladies.
At parade it was almost all guys at Margie Smith-Haas Thursday afternoon Parade seminar.
She's a very good speaker with hours of interesting stories.
A good one or two about chicking guys in the early 80s.
One guy actually sold his car after being chicked.


Couple weeks ago I mentioned to Tom Comeau the battle of the sexes is a lose/lose for men.
It might be tough for the odd guy racer to get beat by a female, but even if the guy does win what is he going to do?
Go tell all his friends he beat a female?

I'm confused ........
Are we men expected to beat female drivers because, as females, they are naturally inferior drivers?
Honestly, it doesn't matter what sex or what size you are when it comes to driving well, does it? Driving well happens in your head. (I'm with you, Tom.)
Even having a ladies class only perpetuates the notion that female drivers can't compete head to head with male drivers, which is blatantly sexist, and precisely why, as AX Chair in 1994-95(?) I moved to have ladies classes dropped for good.
I don't want to spoil your good-natured fun on this topic, but I would find having it pointed out that I was beat by a chick as....well,......meaningless. I was beat by a better driver.
Interestingly, the POC dropped their ladies classes a long time ago.
...Sumpin' to chew on.

Speaking of getting Chicked. How about Margie Hass-Smith in one of Mark K's cars. Or better yet all the fast Chicks in one of his cars. Three laps each with paid attendance for the spectators. Then sit back and watch the fun.

I know this is sexist. But hey it sounds like fun to me.

One of my favorite quotes: “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.” Hemingway.

....there's no gender, ethnicity or athletic ability implied! Go For It!

Tim,

I couldn't agree more. That's kinda why this topic is so much fun. Many of the women in SDR drive in the non-gender oriented classes such as KI, KP, HI, GP, etc. Their competition is not men per say, but experience and seat time. Driving is much more mental than physical and there is no reason that women can't beat men as they do all the time and will continue to.

The fun part about this subject is watching the men looking over their shoulders as the women continue to get more seat time and start picking them off.

Nobody, in any of the classes where women run are above this.

I've spent a lot of time with Tami as a student. She has three things left to master, when she does, everyone that drives with her is in trouble. This weekend she was only 1.5 seconds behind the top of KI.

I hope nobody construes this topic as sexist. It certainly is not. Tami and other women drivers have been having a blast with this. We're here to have fun, I'm just instigating it a little.

For those who didn't do the math yet, all but 12 of us guys got "chicked" at Saturday's AX by Lisa Eguina, Christy Copeman, and Tami Ibbetson, and Margie Smith-Haas (with her 914-6) was only 7 back from there.

I think for most of us, this post is too late. Time to get out the tutu and ballet slippers, I guess. Anyone else going shopping for shoes at Nordie's next weekend?