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Brake Pads

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:14 am
by pdy
Kris:

Awesome drive at Spring Mountain!

I think you mentioned that the Pagid Yellows
are a newer version of the Orange. Looks like
they still make the Orange. Also, there are
two "Yellow" pads - the RS-19 and RS-29. Both
are endurance race pads, but the 29 is supposed
to have more initial bite.

Which pad are you using?

Others - comments on experiences with these,
especially those who have tried or compared
Pagid Orange vs RS-19 vs RS-29?

I am using the Hock-Blew. I love the way they
work on the track, but they're absolutely
shredding my rotors (even the cryogenically
treated power slots!). The residue is ruining
my wheels too.


TIA,

Paul.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:55 pm
by kurquhart
Thanks for the compliment. I'm not sure if I am happier with the overall results or simply beating Martin! :)

At any rate, I currently have Orange on my car. But I have already purchased my next set of pads and they are Pagid Yellow: RS-29 fronts and RS-19 rear. The reasoning is that I want the fronts to bite a little quicker than the rears for stability reasons. I will probably be running this combination at Buttonwillow, so I will have some better data then.

Brake pads EBC Yellowstuff

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:34 pm
by Greg Phillips
Another pad you might look at is the EBC Yellowstuff pads. I have been using them on the 928 and have been very happy with the wear and performance (and price)

Greg

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:19 pm
by Steve Grosekemper
I am a huge fan of Pagid pads and use them on virtually everything I take to the track. I use RS-4-4 almost exclusively but there are lots of options with Pagid. The applications I used are for smaller braked cars.
The larger braked cars 964,993 etc. will sometimes require mixing compound to get the optimum brake balance.
Here is a link to decipher all this compound numbering:
http://www.braketechnology.com/racecharacteristics.html

What I like about them is the rotor friendliness and super consistent braking effort. Yes, they are expensive but great trouble free braking is worth it IMHO.

There are other brands out there that work well for less money like EBC and Poterfield, but I just like pagid the best.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:05 pm
by Tawfik
I used to run Pagid Orange in Front and Black in back to help car balance and I switched to Yellow in the front with Blck in the back and I like it much better. The Yellow pads don t need as much heat to start gripping and also they are much gentler on the rotor.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:13 am
by pdy
The reasoning is that I want the fronts to bite a little quicker than the rears for stability reasons. I will probably be running this combination at Buttonwillow, so I will have some better data then.[/quote]

Hmmm... I have the opposite. I sometimes use the Hawk
Black on the rear axle. Snickers (the Yellow SC) tends
to lock up the fronts, hence the grippier rear compound.

At any rate, thanks all for the inputs. I am not afraid to
spend more to get good braking performance (including feel).

Has anybody run with both the RS-19 and RS29 (not at the
same time)? Can you offer a comparison on the pedal feel
between these two pads, maybe even compared to the Orange?

Thanks, again.

Paul

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:06 am
by kurquhart
pdy wrote:Hmmm... I have the opposite. I sometimes use the Hawk
Black on the rear axle. Snickers (the Yellow SC) tends
to lock up the fronts, hence the grippier rear compound.


The other common recommendation is Yellow front and Black (RS-14) rear, for those cars without enough rear brake bias.