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Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 1:23 pm
by Bob Gagnon
From 2 days ago, thanks to Mr. Wiedeking's financial designs...

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,626666,00.html.

Re: Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 4:24 pm
by MR LIPP
Jad wrote:http://radian.org/notebook/porsche

Very interesting article on why Porsche bought VW and why it was a good investment....


I thought Porsche just made a boatload of money on the VW deal :banghead:

Re: Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:07 pm
by John Straub
OH...this is not good!

John

Re: Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 7:42 am
by MR LIPP
Here is the most recent great idea I have seen:

This from an article in the St. Petersburg Times Newspaper on Sunday.

The Business Section asked readers for ideas on "How Would You Fix the Economy?"

I think this guy nailed it!


Dear Mr. President,

Please find below my suggestion for fixing America's economy. Instead of giving billions of dollars to companies that will squander the money on lavish parties and unearned bonuses, use the following plan. You can call it the Patriotic Retirement Plan:

There are about 40 million people over 50 in the work force. - Pay them $1 million apiece severance for early retirement with the following stipulations:

1) They MUST retire. Forty million job openings - Unemployment fixed.

2) They MUST buy a new American CAR. Forty million cars ordered - Auto Industry fixed.

3) They MUST either buy a house or pay off their mortgage - Housing Crisis fixed.

It can't get any easier than that!

P.S. If more money is needed, have all members in Congress and their constituents pay their taxes...

Re: Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:20 am
by RETII
Seems like a perfectly thought out solution. That is exactly why our government won't do it. If you think the current batch of American made cars were questionable at times just imagine how wonderful they will be when Congress and the Pres run the company. I'll wager one of the new models will be a "BARNEY" :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Re: Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:59 am
by John Straub
I've said for some time now...we have lived through the "Golden Age Of The Automobile".

When car companies made individual cars with their own creativity and ideas...people voted with their check books. Some great...some not so great. Remember the "Finned" cars of the late '50s...you may love them or hate them...but it was your choice.

Hot Rodders started doing their thing many, many years ago and governments tried to shut them down with ever "Mickey Mouse" way they could.

We may be coming to the age of government run car manufactures...with the governments telling all of us what to drive...like little robots.

Sad! :evil:


John

Re: Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:25 am
by Bob Gagnon

Re: Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:30 am
by MR LIPP
Porsche swallowing VW reminds me of the Python who ate the Alligator


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RETII wrote:Seems like a perfectly thought out solution. That is exactly why our government won't do it. If you think the current batch of American made cars were questionable at times just imagine how wonderful they will be when Congress and the Pres run the company. I'll wager one of the new models will be a "BARNEY" :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Actually, I think they are calling it the Pelosi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAqPMJFaEdY

Re: Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:47 pm
by RETII
But Martin they both share that new General Motors feature... they run on hot air :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Re: Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:23 am
by Bob Gagnon
The plot thickens: http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090602/CARNEWS/906029993

Note that Porsche claim they have a double digit profit margin.

Forbes a few years ago reported the profit margins on Porsche vehicles and the average was around 25% as I recall, this in an industry where 5% is a lot.

Imagine, if Porsche did not have the value added of their brand, and had to compete at usual industry levels of profit, Porsche would sell cars for ~ 20% less than they do. A Boxster would start at around $37,000 and a 911 would start at around $61,000.

Re: Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:52 pm
by Dan Chambers
Actually, I think they are calling it the Pelosi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAqPMJFaEdY


Martin, I never knew you could dance so well. :wink: That number 8 on your back was over the top. :roflmao:

And let's not forget about the 2002-tax-reduction-built "George W" .; the " 'merican-made " car to replace the "VW." This "George W" was a car that was built with no computers on board. As the designer, G. W. Bush would always remind us: "Who needs brains? They just add extra weight. Cars don't need brains. Heck, I didn't." :lol: :surr:

(Just a little humor, folks...)

DC

Re: Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:41 pm
by MR LIPP
I am ordering it in yellow WITH matching outfit..oh jeeeethuth :roflmao:


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Re: Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:56 pm
by RETII
I just want to know if the staw hat is SA2005 approved? :roflmao: :roflmao:

Re: Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:04 pm
by MR LIPP
It's FOG2009 certified. Guaranteed to survive a 5 MPH impact without mussing your hair. :roflmao: :roflmao:

Re: Forget Chrysler and GM, Porsche could go bankrupt

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:15 am
by RETII
5MPh? do you know how tight you'd have to wind that rubberband or beat that gerbil to get to 5MPH? :roflmao: