Approved Rule Proposals for 2011

[mrondeau]

See this link for approved rule changes including new car classifications.

http://zone8.pca.org/rules/2010/RuleChangesFor2011Approved.pdf

[tb911]

As you can see, the zone wimped out on immediate adoption, but we knew that was going to happen.

I might suggest that San Diego use the new rules for the region series, even if the zone doesn't use the new rules yet.

[Jackie C]

confused...so your "suggestion" is gospel? Where do we actually stand?

[mrondeau]

confused...so your "suggestion" is gospel? Where do we actually stand?

In the corner with a cold drink.

[tb911]

Sorry for the confusion

All three proposals passed at the presidents' meeting on Saturday, with only minor tweeks. See the URL above.

However, the new 'GGR' style classification is not going into effect until 2012, as the committee was not willing to do a cold turkey transition, and neither were some of the presidents.

So, for Zone 8 purposes, for 2011 we will run under the 2010 style rules, with the 2012 rules there for "information only," to get people used to thinking about them and what it means for the events. At least that is the hope. My fear is most people will ignore them and the switch in 2012 will end up being a harsh transistion anyway, thereby wasting the purpose for waiting.

But my suggestion is that even if we can't do it for the Zone series in 2011, there is nothing to stop the SDR regional series from using the new classification system. The region seemed so excited about it, I say "why wait?" It is doable, if that software guy gets around to updating the timing & registration system for the new year. Could be done for both the AX & TT events. May make a little more work for the reg team. And the timing team would have to run all the reports/exports twice. But again, i say, why wait?

But that is only my suggestion. It will really be up to the AX & TT Teams to decide what they want to do. Perhaps the regular participants could tell event management what they want to see next year, hint, hint.

[mrondeau]

I suggest the event chairs and the new board discuss this and make a decision asap. The classification system is fairly simple for most drivers.

1988 944S - CC11 (470 points)
2006 Boxster S - CC10 (515 points)

Tom,

Thanks for all your hard work.

[Mmagus]

I am willing to be a test dummy, as I already have the "dummy" part down tight!

Lets do it.

CC15

[Jackie C]

Please change your class when you register in MSR as the registration people will have their hands full just changing things in the PCA computer.

[tb911]

Don't worry Jackie

I'll make sure things are set up to ease the transition for all

I've got work to do!

[mrondeau]

Please change your class when you register in MSR as the registration people will have their hands full just changing things in the PCA computer.

Here you go Jackie. This should make it seem easier.

[Gary Burch]

I suggest the event chairs and the new board discuss this and make a decision asap. The classification system is fairly simple for most drivers.

1988 944S - CC11 (470 points)
2006 Boxster S - CC10 (515 points)

Tom,

Thanks for all your hard work.

I second this proposal and the thanks,
1971 911- CC14(330points)

[Greg Phillips]

Sorry for the confusion

All three proposals passed at the presidents' meeting on Saturday, with only minor tweeks. See the URL above.

However, the new 'GGR' style classification is not going into effect until 2012, as the committee was not willing to do a cold turkey transition, and neither were some of the presidents.

So, for Zone 8 purposes, for 2011 we will run under the 2010 style rules, with the 2012 rules there for "information only," to get people used to thinking about them and what it means for the events. At least that is the hope. My fear is most people will ignore them and the switch in 2012 will end up being a harsh transistion anyway, thereby wasting the purpose for waiting.

But my suggestion is that even if we can't do it for the Zone series in 2011, there is nothing to stop the SDR regional series from using the new classification system. The region seemed so excited about it, I say "why wait?" It is doable, if that software guy gets around to updating the timing & registration system for the new year. Could be done for both the AX & TT events. May make a little more work for the reg team. And the timing team would have to run all the reports/exports twice. But again, i say, why wait?

But that is only my suggestion. It will really be up to the AX & TT Teams to decide what they want to do. Perhaps the regular participants could tell event management what they want to see next year, hint, hint.

I am all for it. I think using the new system for 2011 will help bring some excitement to the autocross and TT series.
I would guess we will be discussing this at the December meeting and hope to have a decision before the 2011 season starts.

Greg
1982 911 SC CC8=604 points (depending on tires)
1986 928S CC9=570 points
1993 968 CC12=430 points

[Steve Grosekemper]

Sorry for the confusion

All three proposals passed at the presidents' meeting on Saturday, with only minor tweeks. See the URL above.

However, the new 'GGR' style classification is not going into effect until 2012, as the committee was not willing to do a cold turkey transition, and neither were some of the presidents.

So, for Zone 8 purposes, for 2011 we will run under the 2010 style rules, with the 2012 rules there for "information only," to get people used to thinking about them and what it means for the events. At least that is the hope. My fear is most people will ignore them and the switch in 2012 will end up being a harsh transistion anyway, thereby wasting the purpose for waiting.

But my suggestion is that even if we can't do it for the Zone series in 2011, there is nothing to stop the SDR regional series from using the new classification system. The region seemed so excited about it, I say "why wait?" It is doable, if that software guy gets around to updating the timing & registration system for the new year. Could be done for both the AX & TT events. May make a little more work for the reg team. And the timing team would have to run all the reports/exports twice. But again, i say, why wait?

But that is only my suggestion. It will really be up to the AX & TT Teams to decide what they want to do. Perhaps the regular participants could tell event management what they want to see next year, hint, hint.

I am all for it. I think using the new system for 2011 will help bring some excitement to the autocross and TT series.
I would guess we will be discussing this at the December meeting and hope to have a decision before the 2011 season starts.

Greg
1982 911 SC CC8=604 points (depending on tires)
1986 928S CC9=570 points
1993 968 CC12=430 points

We have Zone-8 and SDR points series so why not use the new 2012 CC system for SDR and the old system for Zone-8 for the 2011 season. I think it would make for very interesting comparisons. Both classes being listed on the car.

We could list cars as II/CC8 for example.

[Otto]

Agree with Steve's suggestion.

[944Greg]

If the zone is going to the new system in 2012, I agree with Steve and Otto, why wait, lets use the new system exclusively for SDR events in 2011.

Lets be leaders in this zone with the transition and not have a transition.

By doing this we may come up with some minor adjustments to suggest for the 2012 zone-wide point system for classing cars. This would make for a more stable set of rules when the zone changes over in 2012.