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Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:35 am
by Robert
Given the interest on the forum with respect to the DE & TT program I'd like to propose to host a round table discussion at my home in Del Mar where any interested forum participant can come, ask questions, share ideas, or just listen to what others have to say. Many interesting ideas have been proposed on the forum, some of which may be workable, others may not be, but by sharing information and approaching things with an open mind, perhaps we can make some positive changes.

Those who are interested please PM me with your general availability (days of the week and times of day that work for you). Given that the holidays are approaching, if there are specific days during the holiday season that don't work for you, be sure to mention that. Once I have a sense of the availability of those interested, I will announce the time here. This is not a sanctioned PCA San Diego Region event, just a group of people who are interested in making a driving program be the best it can be getting together to talk. Happy holidays!

Re: Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:59 am
by gulf911
EXCELLENT!! Thank you Robert. :beerchug: I will PM you with availability next week. Lets see if we cant get Mike G , Peter B, Steve G, Gary B , Jad and as many TTer's as we can to show up and see what we can come up with to help boost attendance to the TT program.

Oh Robert? Will there be egg nog?? :lol:

Re: Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:10 am
by Gary Burch
Good idea Robert. I think we are all interested in making the TT program better and also more accessible.

I hope there will be no egg-nog.

gary

Re: Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:05 am
by Mike
Mike wrote:
Gary Burch wrote:
Cheaper inferior events may be the only choice for some of us.
Or even structured pricing, 30 drivers the cost X, 40 drivers the cost is Y, etc...
We need creative solutions, not creative pricing


That sounds like what Martin did last DE at Chuckwalla.
He relates he lowered the price from $150 to $130 but he needed 5 entries to make the price reduction work.
He got 14 drivers.
I'd enjoy seeing the guys at a round table.
Regardless of the outcome this year my 74 RSR look may only participate in a couple of PCA DE days. :cry:

Fwiw I just picked up a track prepped Z06 and may run it with the 2011 Cal Club Speed trails Corvette Challenge.
The Challenge is run during the Speed Trails DE.
So instead of managing a track day they were able to instead use their resources to bring on sponsors that provide gift certificate awards/incentives to Corvette Challenge entries at each event.
That might be a way for SDR PCA to avoid the liabilities of renting tracks.

Re: Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:34 pm
by Robert
The discussion will be Tuesday, December 21 at 7:00 pm. Anyone else who would like to attend, please PM me ahead of time. Thanks.

Re: Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:45 am
by Dan Chambers
Gary Burch wrote:Good idea Robert. I think we are all interested in making the TT program better and also more accessible.

I hope there will be no egg-nog.

gary


I thought pigs liked egg-nog (Avatar). :roflmao:

Re: Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:02 pm
by spec guy
will there be color groups assigned before the event? I would like to hear more of how the DE is going to be run. Any thoughts?

Re: Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:31 pm
by Robert
spec guy wrote:will there be color groups assigned before the event?

The number and type of run groups will be announced at least one week prior to the event. If you sign up now, you effectively give input on your preference. If you wait until it's announced you take (or leave) what's offered based on those who voiced their opinion by signing up ahead of time. If you sign up and change you mind post announcement you may cancel at absolutely no cost.

Note, this is no different than what has always been done in the past. SDR track events have always configured run groups and schedules based upon supply and demand.

Re: Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:41 am
by spec guy
will the color group that a driver is placed in be determined by experience( as it is done in zone 1). I am thinking about attending the event, just not sure if I will have the car ready. I am also trying to see if there will be a need for instructors.

Re: Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:46 am
by Robert
spec guy wrote:will the color group that a driver is placed in be determined by experience( as it is done in zone 1). I am thinking about attending the event, just not sure if I will have the car ready. I am also trying to see if there will be a need for instructors.

Run group placement is determined by: 1) What event you sign up for (DE or TT), 2) Driver experience, and 3) Car. We can always use qualified instructors.

Re: Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:07 pm
by Robert
Several people have notified me that they cannot attend tonight due to weather. Thus, the meeting is rescheduled to Tuesday, January 4 at 7 pm. If you had RSVP'd already, please PM me to confirm that you've seen this and that you can attend on January 4 instead. Thanks and happy holidays.

Re: Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:23 pm
by gulf911
Let me guess, Grosekemper didn't want to get his hair wet? Or maybe he would melt in the rain?? :lol:

Re: Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:51 pm
by davidsq
The egg-nogg should be good and ripe then... count me in. :mrgreen:
don't be scared gary.
DQ

Re: Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:08 pm
by Gary Burch
davidsq wrote:The egg-nogg should be good and ripe then... count me in. :mrgreen:
don't be scared gary.
DQ


The only thing that scares me more than egg nog- is watching you drink it.

Re: Round table discussion of the DE & TT program

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:01 pm
by Steve Grosekemper
gulf911 wrote:Let me guess, Grosekemper didn't want to get his hair wet? Or maybe he would melt in the rain?? :lol:


Clearly wet hair is not an issue for you dan... Just wipe the water off your mellon with a dry wash cloth and you are ready to go... :wink:

Actually my hair keeps the rain off the rest of me so no risk of melting.
I had the F-150 loaded up and ready to go splashing through the puddles...
Have to find someone else to blame for this one.