Auto-x results are posted on

A place to hang out and discuss all things Porsche.

Auto-x results are posted on

Postby kary on Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:00 am

http://web2.pcasdr.org/pca/pca.php?database=

I need the BRI numbers for the new classes.........
Kary
1997 993 PCA#131 POC#131
Group 9 Motorsports
www.group9motorsports.com
Image
User avatar
kary
Pro Racer
 
Posts: 1190
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:35 pm
Location: Cardiff by the Sea, California, USA

Score one for the BRI

Postby Jad on Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:24 pm

If you take my time in the 944 spec and apply the BRI you get a corrected time of 88.4. My corrected time in my turbo is 88.4. So there is at least some accuracy in the BRI 8)
Jad Duncan
997 S Cab - Sold
996 "not a cup car" Sold
Tesla Model S
Porsche Taycan
https://www.goldfishconsulting.com/
User avatar
Jad
Pro Racer
 
Posts: 1788
Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:03 am
Location: Del Mar

Postby David J Marguglio on Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:06 pm

Likewise Jad, I would have been 8 with my Spec BRI and was 10 with the RSA. So maybe that thing is more accurate than Tom thinks?
Personal driving coach to:
Maria Sharapova
1993 Martin-thrashing RS America
2004 Cayenne
User avatar
David J Marguglio
Time Trialer
 
Posts: 398
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:33 pm

Postby bryanearll on Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:16 pm

70th on the day and 70th on the BRI... :shock:

Someone needs some seat time... :D
Bryan
Bryan Earll
'01 996 C2 #339
User avatar
bryanearll
Time Trialer
 
Posts: 162
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:08 pm

Postby jgunn on Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:06 pm

NS/S was modified last year to accomodate the GT2/GT3, you should use that number (1.050) and revert NS/S to its old number of 1.033.

See the thread from last year
http://web2.pcasdr.org/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 25&start=0
User avatar
jgunn
Autocrosser
 
Posts: 61
Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:52 pm

Postby ttweed on Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:32 pm

David J Marguglio wrote:So maybe that thing is more accurate than Tom thinks?
Don't take my disclaimers about the BRI wrong, David, I really like the index and was a proponent of its development, and I think Carl did an excellent job of leveling the field, as it is a very difficult proposition. It is a moving target, though, and we need to refine it annually, which is what the SCCA does. It is going to need revision for the new classes, and I hope Carl will have the time to work on it again.

I have to poo-poo its accuracy in order to appear humble about doing so well on the BRI previously. 8) :roll: I would have had an 84.68 at this event with the same index as last year, so I feel pretty good about my drive on Sunday, in a 38-year old car on street tires. :D

TT
Tom Tweed -- #908
SDR Tech Inspection Chair 2005-06
SDR Forum Admin 2010-present
Windblown Witness Assistant Editor 2012-present
Driving Porsches since 1964
User avatar
ttweed
Admin
 
Posts: 1851
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 7:13 am
Location: La Jolla, CA

Postby bobbrand on Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:00 pm

Martin beat me by 8 hundredths in the actual timing, and by 8 hundredths in the BRI :?

If only I hadn't DNF'd the first run...
User avatar
bobbrand
Autocrosser
 
Posts: 110
Joined: Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:11 pm

Postby MikeD on Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:05 pm

bobbrand wrote:Martin beat me by 8 hundredths in the actual timing, and by 8 hundredths in the BRI :?

If only I hadn't DNF'd the first run...


Ummm Bob, aren't you two in the same class? So your index is the same? Seems to make sense that the difference would be the same also...
Mike Dougherty
'02 986 S - Arctic Silver/Black - #757 -- gone but not forgotten
User avatar
MikeD
Club Racer
 
Posts: 777
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:31 pm
Location: Davidson, NC

Postby kary on Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:09 am

I updated the BRI tables so that everyone (particularly in O and P class) would have a BRI number. The set of BRI numbers are new for 2005. The previous BRI numbers will remain for prior years as these BRI indices are date ranged.

Carl is working on creating some indices for these new classes and when he completes this prior to the next auto-x I will update the current BRI tables to reflect them. That is the latest for now..................
Kary
1997 993 PCA#131 POC#131
Group 9 Motorsports
www.group9motorsports.com
Image
User avatar
kary
Pro Racer
 
Posts: 1190
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:35 pm
Location: Cardiff by the Sea, California, USA

Postby Kim Crosser on Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:53 pm

I am happy with this BRI! :D

Now if Bill Ibbetson would just stop driving that 968 WAY beyond it's limits, maybe I could move up another notch... :wink:
2012 Panamera 4
2013 Cayenne
2008-2009 Treasurer
User avatar
Kim Crosser
Club Racer
 
Posts: 791
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:37 am
Location: Rancho Santa Fe, CA

Postby ttweed on Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:31 pm

kary wrote:I updated the BRI tables so that everyone (particularly in O and P class) would have a BRI number.
Something is screwy with the databases or factors, Kary, I am getting some whacky numbers (like 11 seconds for a corrected lap time in CSS in the 7/26/03 event, because of an index shown at .0975 instead of .975) and other dates that return "no info" when the BRI position is clicked on from the results table (like for the 2/21/04 event.)

I think you might have some typos in your tables somewhere?

TT
Tom Tweed -- #908
SDR Tech Inspection Chair 2005-06
SDR Forum Admin 2010-present
Windblown Witness Assistant Editor 2012-present
Driving Porsches since 1964
User avatar
ttweed
Admin
 
Posts: 1851
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 7:13 am
Location: La Jolla, CA

Postby kary on Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:07 pm

ttweed wrote:
kary wrote:I updated the BRI tables so that everyone (particularly in O and P class) would have a BRI number.
Something is screwy with the databases or factors, Kary, I am getting some whacky numbers (like 11 seconds for a corrected lap time in CSS in the 7/26/03 event, because of an index shown at .0975 instead of .975) and other dates that return "no info" when the BRI position is clicked on from the results table (like for the 2/21/04 event.)

I think you might have some typos in your tables somewhere?

TT


Tom, you get what you paid for with this database :) I will have to look at it when I get time to determine what the issue might be. What do you want for free? :roll:
Kary
1997 993 PCA#131 POC#131
Group 9 Motorsports
www.group9motorsports.com
Image
User avatar
kary
Pro Racer
 
Posts: 1190
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:35 pm
Location: Cardiff by the Sea, California, USA

Postby kary on Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:34 pm

Ok, I took a quick look. The issue was in the first date range of BRI indices the CSS CSSL was set to 0.0975 rather than 0.975. That is why the times were screwy for the BRI. It should be fine for the earlier BRI date ranges (i.e. before 7/2004).

Still get what you paid for :)
Kary
1997 993 PCA#131 POC#131
Group 9 Motorsports
www.group9motorsports.com
Image
User avatar
kary
Pro Racer
 
Posts: 1190
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:35 pm
Location: Cardiff by the Sea, California, USA

Postby ttweed on Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:40 am

kary wrote:Still get what you paid for :)
You're providing a great resource for free, Kary, and I appreciate all your efforts on it, as do many others, I'm sure. Take all the time you need, I'm not complaining! :D

I realized the events where I was getting "no info" on the BRI were rainouts. DUH!

TT
Tom Tweed -- #908
SDR Tech Inspection Chair 2005-06
SDR Forum Admin 2010-present
Windblown Witness Assistant Editor 2012-present
Driving Porsches since 1964
User avatar
ttweed
Admin
 
Posts: 1851
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 7:13 am
Location: La Jolla, CA

Postby David J Marguglio on Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:49 pm

Kary: I have put in a suggestion with the board to double your current pay. Just a token of my appreciation for your efforts.
Personal driving coach to:
Maria Sharapova
1993 Martin-thrashing RS America
2004 Cayenne
User avatar
David J Marguglio
Time Trialer
 
Posts: 398
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:33 pm

Next

Return to General Discussions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 57 guests