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1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA-Hangout/ have coffee

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:49 pm
by MR LIPP
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............................................................. Tech Session

.................................................... Dyno Day at JBA


....................... Find out how much HP/Torque your baby really has.

....................................... Sorry, the dyno can't do all wheel drive or four wheel drive vehicles

............... Cost: $60.00 for 2 Dyno pulls payable in CASH at the event.
............... Cost: $75.00 for 3 Dyno pulls payable in CASH at the event.

Click here to register
If you are doing this for classification be sure to click the option on the registration form (I think it works now :rockon: )

The order will be first registered, first served. We will figure out a schedule for ETA on your dyno runs.
Due to time limitations, there is a 20 car max at this event, however you are welcome to watch also :rockon:
Priority will be given to P cars that are in for classification purposes
We will have another Dyno Day if demand is really that high

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Coffee and donuts served/barbecue at lunch


Questions? Contact pca.sdr.techsessions@gmail.com

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http://www.jbaracing.com/custom-dyno-tuning.asp

JBA's full service shop features a Dyno Dynamics load-bearing eddy-current chassis dyno. Results are weather-corrected and the dyno reliably handles everything from a 50-hp grocery getter to a 1,000 hp racecar! For every power verification, you receive a color graph that charts your hp and torque curves, along with a printout that includes mph, rpm, hp, torque, ambient temp, air/fuel ratio and vacuum/boost readings throughout the rpm band. For more information, please feel free to contact JBA at 858-495-3395.

JBA Performance Center
5675 Kearny Villa Rd
San Diego, CA 92123
Phone 858.495.3395




Click here for directions

Re: 1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:24 pm
by ttweed
MR LIPP wrote:............... Cost: $60.00 for 2 Dyno pulls payable in CASH at the event.

Thanks for organizing this, Martin. However, this is what our new rules say about measuring HP for Z8 competition:
If the new horsepower value is not a published figure (as, for example, a result of switching from factory injection to carburetors or ECU reprogramming) the new value must be determined by the vehicle owner by measurement on a dynamometer. The procedure for this is as follows:

Use the maximum horsepower figure generated and averaged over three successive dynamometer runs
If the vehicle has forced induction with a cockpit or driver adjustable boost regulator, the boost must be at maximum in the adjustable range.
All testing must be done with engine at normal race running temperature
The entire power train must be in its “as raced” configuration (correct exhaust, etc.)
SAE correction must be performed
Dynamometer test results must be signed and dated by the operator
If the car has adjustable engine management it must be noted and described on the Dyno Certification form.

A current copy of the dynamometer test results must be made available to the Tech Inspector or other event officials upon request.


If we want to use this session to meet the Z8 rule requirement for next season, will it be possible to get 3 pulls instead of two? I would be willing to pay more if necessary.

Thx,
TT

Re: 1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:12 am
by Sharkman
I am in! Thanks, Martin!

Re: 1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:31 am
by MR LIPP
Ok Tom, here you go.
I will set up Motorsport.reg to get info 2 or 3 pull option.

............... Cost: $75.00 for 3 Dyno pulls payable in CASH at the event.

If there is a special form, please be sure to bring it.

JBA will also do a barbecue if we go into lunchtime...it was great fun last year!

Re: 1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:52 am
by ttweed
MR LIPP wrote:If there is a special form, please be sure to bring it.

We haven't developed a specific form yet that I know of. The new rule just says: "Dynamometer test results must be signed and dated by the operator," so if we could get them to sign and date the output of the 3 runs, that should be all we need. Those who also run in the POC GT classes could use the form that they have for this purpose to satisfy their dyno test requirements:
http://www.porscheclub.com/pdf/2011/2011GCRsAppendixD_r3.pdf

I'm not going to gripe about it, since $90 is as cheap as I could get it done elsewhere, but it seems to me that once the vehicle is strapped down and secured on the dyno, making one more pull after the first two is not really 50% more work or time for them. Is a $30 increase really what they need/want for that?
Thx,
TT

Re: 1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:02 am
by gocart
making one more pull after the first two is not really 50% more work or time for them. Is a $30 increase really what they need/want for that?

+1

I would like a print out of my Air/fuel mixture as well. How much extra will that cost?

Re: 1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:14 pm
by davidsq
my .02
now i'm broke.
tom, i like the way you think.... i'm glad you helped pushed this.
for those that want to use the dyno runs "tech session" as your poc requirements, YOU CAN NOT. i checked.
the 20 spots seems small. will the first come first served be applied to "p" cars ? sorry that might get into another subject.

Re: 1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:33 pm
by MR LIPP
gocart wrote:
making one more pull after the first two is not really 50% more work or time for them. Is a $30 increase really what they need/want for that?

I would like a print out of my Air/fuel mixture as well. How much extra will that cost?


They normally charge $95 for two pulls but just for you we got it to $75 for three and breakfast/lunch thrown in :rockon:
Air/fuel mixture on print-out...no charge :rockon:

davidsq wrote:my .02
now i'm broke.
tom, i like the way you think.... i'm glad you helped pushed this.
for those that want to use the dyno runs "tech session" as your poc requirements, YOU CAN NOT. i checked.
the 20 spots seems small. will the first come first served be applied to "p" cars ? sorry that might get into another subject.


three cars an hour is about the pace we did last year (do you really want your car rushed through?) :banghead:
I thought this was a PCA event :roflmao:
Priority will be given to P cars that are in for classification purposes
We will have another Dyno Day if demand is really that high

Re: 1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:38 pm
by Sharkman
When will you post the link so we can sign up? I will be dynoing the vette. I am assuming that counts since I run with and am a member of the P Club?

Re: 1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:14 pm
by MR LIPP
I am a little rusty on motorsport.reg and am having trouble with the added question of classification.
Anybody feel like looking at it?

Re: 1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:18 pm
by davidsq
I will be dynoing the vette. I am assuming that counts since I run with and am a member of the P Club



Priority will be given to P cars that are in for classification purposes



what class are you in....?

I DO NOT MEAN TO STIR UP THE GAS & OIL (usually 40:1)

DQ

Re: 1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:33 pm
by ttweed
MR LIPP wrote:They normally charge $95 for two pulls but just for you we got it to $75 for three and breakfast/lunch thrown in :rockon:
Air/fuel mixture on print-out...no charge :rockon:


That sounds great, Martin! Thanks for all your work on this. And Jim, too!  :bowdown:

TT

Re: 1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:15 pm
by Sharkman
davidsq wrote:
I will be dynoing the vette. I am assuming that counts since I run with and am a member of the P Club



Priority will be given to P cars that are in for classification purposes



what class are you in....?

DQ


I am an X-class vehicle and have participated in every PCA event since january, with the exception of 2. Since I have modified the car somewhat to help with my Auto-X and Track times, I need the dyno to make sure my "points" are accurate on the Tech Sheet. Unless somebody says otherwise, I will assume I can attend this event to get the Vette dyno'ed.

Re: 1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:14 am
by davidsq
TAP...
i'm out

Re: 1/14 Sat-Tech Session Dyno Day at JBA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:28 am
by MR LIPP
Sharkman wrote: Unless somebody says otherwise, I will assume I can attend this event to get the Vette dyno'ed.


I only see a problem IF more than 20 Porsches want to get a dyno run, so go ahead and register.

We will have a wait list just in case.

As I said before, we can always set up another Dyno Day right away.

BTW, thank Jim for getting us the extra discount :beerchug:

Somebody who cares a lot more than I do about AX rules should chime in here about X car points.

davidsq wrote:TAP...
i'm out


Were you DQed? :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: