924S/944/951 gathering at Miramar Speed Circuit

[Josh Y]

is miramar the same thing as k1 karting?
cuz if so i believe when me and my dad went to k1, we were top time of the month

[Erik K]

Hey Josh, K1 uses electric karts with an open diff, and Miramar uses i believe a 9 hp four stroke with a solid rear axle.

[Josh Y]

so there gas karts?

i know there not shifter karts....

[Erik K]

Yea there gas, I think they have more top end power than K1, just try to avoid bogging down on corner exit, The warehouse has a bunch of fans going to help with the exhaust gases.

[Josh Y]

so there completely different than k1, well then thats gonna take some getting used to...im used to the electric..... ill just start thinking of excuses now... haha

[Tim Comeau]

Brian Harnish,
Of course all the other types of water pumpers are welcome. Also, I would never want to turn away a Porsche owner. 911's are welcome. Their owners just might not find anything to talk about?
944 owner: "My water pump is leaking."
911 owner: "You mean in your coolsuit?...."

Anyway, just come on down with as many water pumpers as you can...even if it's on a trailer.

[kurquhart]

I think I've gotten to the low 34's when I weighed 210 lbs. I'm at 200 or less now but I doubt that will make much difference. I was finally starting to get the slow in-fast out concept and while it felt wimpy, it works!

Weight of the driver has a huge impact in karts. I'm about 190 and my best lap is 33.85. That same day a small kid turned a 31.944!

[Jad]

I think I've gotten to the low 34's when I weighed 210 lbs. I'm at 200 or less now but I doubt that will make much difference. I was finally starting to get the slow in-fast out concept and while it felt wimpy, it works!

Weight of the driver has a huge impact in karts. I'm about 190 and my best lap is 33.85. That same day a small kid turned a 31.944!

Kris,

I use to think the weight thing was a big deal, but I don't any longer. If you get slowed down, you are dead, but no matter the driver, they are pure momentum vehicles and the heavier driver actually can carry a little more speed in the corners which he loses back on the straight. Overall, maybe a couple tenths per 100 lbs is my guess. The variation from kart to kart or day to day seems to be greater. I went to a track in Utah that posted all the record times based on weight class, every 20 lbs was another class as I recall, except for the 225+ crowd (who probably just didn't fit) ALL the records were within .15 seconds, and the lightest weren't the fastest

There is a kid named Shogo that drives there a LOT and weighs about 75 lbs, but is a very good, VERY experienced driver. Ask me how I know

[Josh Y]

so what your saying jad,
is no excuses, the better driver will win?

[Jad]

so what your saying jad,
is no excuses, the better driver will win?

For the optimum lap, yes. Now when you race, with blocking, passing, and slower traffic, light weight kills and don't even talk about standing starts But still be more concerned about kart variations, than anything else. It is easy to be 1-1.5 seconds slower when you change karts, so don't worry, there are plenty of excuses, just not much (but a little) for weight in my opinion.

[Josh Y]

how long is the track? just wondering...
and im guessing because they are gas karts you have to wear suits, boots, gloves, and all that...? which differs from k1

[Jad]

Actually, it is the same as K1, closed toe shoes is the only requirement. Erik is right about the differences, but the average person wouldn't notice much difference between the two places. Both have pluses and minuses, so I don't know which I like better.

[mrondeau]

The track is pretty short. You need to wear closed toe shoes and a helmet, just like K1. The biggest difference is that the gas carts don't recover as quickly when they bog down, but they seem to go faster overall. Both are a lot of fun.

I agree w/Jad. Each cart has it's own personality. Some carts are just faster than others. It's a lot like driving the 944. Don't use the brakes any more than you have to and find the line.

[Josh Y]

sounds fun.. cant wait and may the trash talk begin..., well for people who have actually done it...

[Steve Grosekemper]

Kart variation is by far the biggest factor I have found.
A few of us took our kids down last weekend and filled up two sessions after letting the kids do the Jr. driver school which I recommend highly.
(I think we could have rented the "Q" for the same price however)

My first kart felt very balanced and was pretty easy to drive, but the second kart had lots of oversteer due to used up rear tires. I had to work much harder to get a good time but it was just as much fun. And more closely mimicked my own driving style...