Same course for next AX ?? Let us, the AX team know

[Dan Chambers]

It is an unfair advantage for my competition to run this course back to back, even if it is not exactly alike. I'm just thinking for points reasons/season standings here - which are important to many people.

That is a very compelling point. If this is a "points" event, could there be a perceived, if not real advantage for those who drove it the first time over those who did not?

Excellent point, Jennifer.

[993Panzer]

I was not able to run this AX due to a repair part not being available. It is an unfair advantage for my competition to run this course back to back, even if it is not exactly alike. I'm just thinking for points reasons/season standings here - which are important to many people.

Now, repeating a track every 6 months, the next year, or at the other car AX, would be better because the track won't still be freshly imprinted in one's mind.

Excellent point Jennifer.

[Bill Behun]

Good point Jennifer regarding unfair advantage if you missed driving the track the first time and class points are important.

Perhaps we will run the track "backwards" like Tawfik suggested. People won't need to swap tire sides and it will still be a long fun layout that misses potholes. Also, Jackie and I will be gone at various times over the next two weeks and won't have time to lay out a new course to miss potholes. Ron Trotter probably won't be at the AX so reusing the layout will help save time and get us started at 9.

Sound OK?

[jenniferreinhardt]

Sounds good to me. Thanks Bill.

[LUCKY DAVE]

I think ruinning it backwards is a great idea. We can have everything we all liked about the layout, the direction doesn't matter. I can see Jennifer's point about the points and unfair practice, I hadn't thought about that when I lobbied for a repeat.
Plus, who wants to change tires when they don't absolutely have to?

[ChuckS]

I like the idea of running it again as I missed running it the first time and then had to hear how great it was from everybody.
I guess that backwards is OK, but let's repeat it as soon as is practical.

[Bill Behun]

OK, let's plan on running it backwards. We'll adjust the start and finish locations for this direction. Jackie Lu and Ron Trotter concur.

Question: Is there anything in the rules that says you can't run your car backwards? That way, those who missed it the first time can see it the way it was driven the first time (but in reverse order of course).

[LUCKY DAVE]

Chuck, I only want it backwards because it will suit my car so much more than yours.....

[LUCKY DAVE]

OK, let's plan on running it backwards. We'll adjust the start and finish locations for this direction. Jackie Lu and Ron Trotter concur.

Question: Is there anything in the rules that says you can't run your car backwards? That way, those who missed it the first time can see it the way it was driven the first time (but in reverse order of course).

I've driven mine backwards a few times....

[ChuckS]

Bill, Ron and Jackie:

Can Dave and I have a run backwards to see who is faster?

[LUCKY DAVE]

(in advance)....EXCUSE #17 and #19!!

[ChuckS]

Overheating and leaking oil? You can do better than that!

[ChuckS]

I prefer #4 and #15

[MTrotter]

to make things fair for those that are collecting point for a year end trophy, why dont you use that course as the no points "other car" event in december.
Autox is supposed to be different every time.

[Kim Crosser]

My $0.02 - I don't think that track will work nearly as well counter-clockwise. In particular, I think the swale crossing will be painful (as in "crunch").
I like the idea of repeating it at the "other car" AX, or even just repeating it after 1-2 other tracks, if people are worried about unfair experience.
Of course, all this assumes we can throw the track exactly as it was before (you did get the GPS coordinates for all the cones, right?).