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DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby martinreinhardt on Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:43 pm

Looks like you guys had a fun event. Here are the results. Jennifer enjoyed driving the Boxster again.

Results:
http://results.pcasdr.org/event_standings.php?time_format=1&database=&event_date=2009-10-04

BRI:
http://results.pcasdr.org/event_bri_sta ... 2009-10-04
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Re: DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby mrondeau on Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:16 am

Great job AX team. It was a very fun and challenging track and I've never seen so much competition in the NSS class. I took 4th place behind three very fast drivers  :bowdown: sharing the same Cayman S and I still got 8th in the BRI. It will be very interesting to see what the Caymans do as people start to optimize them for S and P classes. I think that with some modification, they have a shot at TTOD. I'd like to see what a new PDK Cayman S with factory LSD and 320 HP could do on some of our track layouts. :shock: Great job everybody!!

BTW, does anyone have the David & Goliath BRI results?
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Re: DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby 993Panzer on Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:40 am

It is nice to see the Yellow jersey stayed in SD. Nice job Mark!!! Gunter, close second, nice job.
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Re: DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby LUCKY DAVE on Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:58 am

Yes, it was satisfying to bi*ch slap :twisted: .....er....defeat the pretentious upstart rivals for a change.
While it's true that as non-members of SDR they are inherently inferior, lately they have shown the need to be put in their place.


Now, if only we can beat them for the year unlike last year's fiasco :banghead:
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Re: DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby Bill Behun on Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:57 am

Yes Dave, let's bi*ch slap :twisted: .....er....defeat the pretentious upstart rivals!

Next David & Goliath is at OCR, Sunday December 6!

Heck, I think we only need a couple of more folks to go to OCR to put them in place for sure. :burnout:

Congrats on your BRI win yesterday ..... again!
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Re: DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby Gunter on Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:51 am

How about my niece Kelsey ? 1:32:93  :bowdown: ! Absolutely fantastic drive. She ran in the low 1:40s in the first session, improved to high 35s and low 36s in the second session and then the "money run". Now I am starting to wonder if I'll ever get my car back...
And Jackie promised to make her even faster... :)
This was only her second time in the Spec so watch out boys
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Re: DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby Kim Crosser on Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:31 pm

martinreinhardt wrote:Jennifer enjoyed driving the Boxster again.

I should hope so - Jennifer in her Boxster beat me in mine.  :bowdown:
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Re: DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby seguina on Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:50 pm

Yes Dave, let's bi*ch slap .....er....defeat the pretentious upstart rivals!

Next David & Goliath is at OCR, Sunday December 6!

Heck, I think we only need a couple of more folks to go to OCR to put them in place for sure.

Congrats on your BRI win yesterday ..... again!


RIGHT............Dec 6th........You better bring your "A" Team. Several of us will be at a POC event but I don't really see a problem.

Remember we breakout the stop watches if SDR get to far ahead :rockon:

Thanks all for a fun day! Steve
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Re: DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby ttweed on Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:08 pm

mrondeau wrote:Great job AX team. It was a very fun and challenging track

I concur. Bill blamed the huge offset slalom element on Don at the driver's meeting, and asked us to give him feedback on it. I'm not sure if I loved it or hated it, but I thought it was by far the most challenging aspect of the design, especially with the major camber changes from pylon to pylon. I tried a lot of different things through that section, and I'm not sure I ever found the fast way through it, but it did make for an interesting day.

I've never seen so much competition in the NSS class. I took 4th place behind three very fast drivers  :bowdown: sharing the same Cayman S and I still got 8th in the BRI. It will be very interesting to see what the Caymans do as people start to optimize them for S and P classes.
That was a pretty phenomenal drive by Radomin. A 1:28 on street tires with the dusty, slippery surface conditions certainly demonstrates that he is a great driver and the Cayman is a very capable car. Granted, there were some fast SDR regulars missing from this event (Erik, Dan, Roland, Peter, Martin, Jad and Dave all come quickly to mind) but we haven't had an SS car in the top 10 all year. An 8th place overall on raw time is pretty amazing. The last time I can remember it happening was 2008 when Ted Drcar was running his 997 Carrera S.

I was working the corner at the end of the back straight when Rad made his timed runs, and I have to admit that as a die-hard, early-911 guy, I found myself lusting after some modern ABS brakes. He would come storming down to the brake zone in that dark Cayman and I would think "oh man, I'm really going to have to chase some cones now," then he would stand on the brakes and "whoa-up" in no time, with no tire smoke, no screeching, and no drama. Technology can be a wonderful thing.

BTW, does anyone have the David & Goliath BRI results?

Steve E. is still applying his "new math" to the results to get the right OCR spin on it. :D I have to admit that the 3 "ringers" in the Cayman pretty much saved the day for them. We need a similar effort at their D&G event if we're ever going to even the series out. They had a pretty big lead going into this one. At the last OCR one in July at El Toro, there was only me, Tawfik, and Carl V. there, and I pretty much sucked that day. :cry:

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Re: DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby LUCKY DAVE on Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:43 pm

I'll have to borrow a trailer to attend the Dec 6 OCR event, I can't drive my car that far on the freeway.
I wouldn't be able to get out of it when I got there, and my eyes wouldn't focus for two weeks. :surr:

yeah, it's that stiff
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Re: DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby brilliantrot on Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:06 pm

As a driver of the blue OCR Cayman I can say ABS is good and bad. This was my first event ever driving something modern, I just sold my white AI 914 that some of you may remember, and ABS is a double edged sword. The Cayman system is very intrusive and will not allow any steering angle without coming on it seemed, you get used to it being on all the time giving a foot massage :lol: . You could not tail brake at all so you would have to come in hot an pitch it a little. I like the car a lot and it sure does stop in a hurry and has decent power once the RPMs are over 4K but it is heavy and needs more tire especially in the front. I had the car 3rd for the timed runs and the tires were too hot and the car just wouldn't turn like it did when the front tires cooler.

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Re: DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby UKAYMAN on Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:04 pm

Great AX guys. It was a lot of fun challenging the "S" Cayman & Boxster drivers. I agree with Mark Rondeau, NSS was/is very competitive. If I wasn't trying to lock down NS class for this year, continuing on from my last car, i'd have ran in SS. Sheesh.. I kind of wish I did :banghead: A top 10 BRI position would have been SWEEEEET!! I guess theres the next D&G challenge to look forward to. Roll on Dec 6!! :wink:

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Re: DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby Don Middleton on Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:19 pm

ttweed wrote:
mrondeau wrote:Great job AX team. It was a very fun and challenging track

I concur. Bill blamed the huge offset slalom element on Don at the driver's meeting, and asked us to give him feedback on it. I'm not sure if I loved it or hated it, but I thought it was by far the most challenging aspect of the design, especially with the major camber changes from pylon to pylon. I tried a lot of different things through that section, and I'm not sure I ever found the fast way through it, but it did make for an interesting day.


Glad to hear you found "learning the line" such a challenge. That was the idea behind opening up that section of the lot and the minimal use of cones. :rockon:

I've never seen so much competition in the NSS class. I took 4th place behind three very fast drivers  :bowdown: sharing the same Cayman S and I still got 8th in the BRI. It will be very interesting to see what the Caymans do as people start to optimize them for S and P classes.


Watch out for Carl Scragg! He takes notice when one class dominates the BRI. You know what happened when he and Chuck S. got tired of seeing the IS class dominate. Those were the days - I never won it, but was runner up to another IS car three times :( Well, N class is on his radar now. :wink:
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Re: DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby jenniferreinhardt on Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:59 pm

Kim Crosser wrote:
martinreinhardt wrote:Jennifer enjoyed driving the Boxster again.

I should hope so - Jennifer in her Boxster beat me in mine.  :bowdown:


Kim, I only got you by a smidge, and it looked like your tires were even worse than mine. It was SO fun to slide, (safe quasi wiggles), after 1st set of braking cones to get around the turn, and was shocked when some of the times I looked in the rear view and didn't hit any cones.

The early, more stock, 911s were fast and great to watch. Agreed the slalom was the most fun. Many different ways to drive it, and with all the laps couldn't remember which one was the fastest.

Thanks as usual to everyone who helped to make it happen.
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Re: DAVID & GOLIATH Autocross Results

Postby gulf911 on Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:41 pm

nobody else see's the flaw in letting a high bri car get driven by multiple drivers for the D&G?? :banghead:

Mr Malmberg, please grab erik, Jad, Roland, Martin, Peter , jackie... as examples, to drive your car Dec 6th.... :beerchug:

Great job on BRI first place David!... :rockon:
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