Warning to Porsche buyers...warranty issue and PCNA

[sean996]

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Is Porsche saying:

1) There is no problem,
2) There is a problem, but the warranty is void because of racing,
3) There is a problem caused by abuse, and thus not covered,
4) There is a problem and they will try again to fix it, but won't replace the car,
5) or something else?

It will be interesting to hear the ruling.[/quote]

1) Up until about 1/15/5 stated by dealer and PNA.

2) Stated at arbitration.

3) Tryed to say this after saying 2.

4) They will fix the RMS, but not the smoking.

5) I think that covers it.

Sean

[Gary Burch]

We could design the tracks to compensate for the lack of dependability of the newer cars. Closing off the high speed sections and making the turns tighter would probably save the new Porsches or aleast keep their reputations in tact. We shouldn't push them too hard, because it would be nice to find one in good shape when I can afford it.

[rss996]

Now you are on to something Gary!

[kary]

We could design the tracks to compensate for the lack of dependability of the newer cars. Closing off the high speed sections and making the turns tighter would probably save the new Porsches or aleast keep their reputations in tact. We shouldn't push them too hard, because it would be nice to find one in good shape when I can afford it.

I beleive you have defined normal street driving. Possibly they will be more dependable in those conditions

[rss996]

Better tell Porsche to quit pushing all the references to "taking them out to the track" like in the latest issue of Christophorus........

I love my new car but am a bit upset at the deceiving marketing by Porsche...

I am all for a company making tons of money but it is entirely different for someone or some company to be constantly tooting their own horn like Porsche does lately, with all their articles of how awesome their financial statements are....

Robert

[Gary Burch]

Maybe that's the real purpose of PSM (Prevent Stressfull Manuvers)

[rss996]

Or "Possible Starvation Manager" as in oil..........Oh I forgot it has an "integrated" dry sump........

[bryanearll]

Look guys, the 996 in question is not representative of most of the new cars.

Making the course tighter and slower will not help the current 996's. Our current courses are decidely tight and slow for the 996 anyway. Wanna do the class a favor? Open up the course and ease up on the curves. (how about a nice big fat oval)

My take on the 996 is that current AX courses are not super friendly. Why? The gearing is wrong and balance is poor for a "rolling" (side to side) course at the relatively slow speeds we are driving.

Wanna make the 996 competitive? Larger and faster at speeds between 50 & 120 mph (depending on what gear) would be great. The 996 comes into it's own when not 'thrown' off balance, it seems to me that it's a car that likes to have it's position set then accelerate. Stock, its a better Willow Springs car than Q car. (but I haven't driven Willow Springs its just a theory)

Now, what I would be interested in knowing is whether any of you folk would be interested in buying a GT3 CUP CAR?

Boys love their toys!
b

[kary]

Now, what I would be interested in knowing is whether any of you folk would be interested in buying a GT3 CUP CAR?

Boys love their toys!
b

Nope. 993 Cup car maybe....come out to the Time trails, you will have much more fun with your 996 than at an auto-x. Your car will thank you!

[rss996]

Sean, any word yet?

[ben, lj]

Sean, any word yet?

Tomorrow marks 2 weeks since the Tuesday the arb was supposed to decide.

[Curt]

This is probably a stupid question, but how hard or expensive would it be for Porsche to build the Boxster and 996/997 motors with a true dry sump?

It sure is great to hear Porsche bragging about being the most profitable car maker in the world, isn't it?

And while I agree with Kary about preferring a 993 Cup Car to a 996 Cup Car, our 993 Cup Cars would be getting b'yatch slapped by the newer Cup car, wouldn't they?

[rss996]

Well they should at least put it on their window sticker correctly....WET SUMP!

Very deceiving marketing, but most people don't even know the difference! (Like me)!!!!

Now I do though.....

Now I know why all the old time Porsche fanatics are upset with the AIR COOLED and WET SUMPS....

Anyway, I still love my 997!

[rss996]

Sean lost his arbitration and they won claiming abuse...he has been traveling so I think he will post something when he returns...

I'll let him tell the story.....

[ben, lj]

Sean lost his arbitration and they won claiming abuse...he has been traveling so I think he will post something when he returns...

I'll let him tell the story.....

So the moral of the story is be very careful autocrossing, attending PCA drivers ed, or most any other DE in your warrantied Porsche unless you are prepared to pay for any repairs which Porsche will deny. Particularly, make sure both feet are in IMMEDIATELY upon any spin out lest a type 2 overrev give Porsche all the evidence they apparently need to deny your claim even if the damage is a result of an unrelated issue. I sure feel sorry for all the folks that bought the PDE cars from some of our S. Cal dealers. Those cars are not likely under warranty even if the time/mileage hasn't run out.

Also, it would be nice if PCASDR went to the same some sort of anonymous autorcross/DE member identification system other chapters use specifically for this purpose.