2008 Time Trial Schedule?

[gulf911]

This doesn't make sense to me. If I have 1 set of tires , I am going to have to manage my tires to keep them as sticky as possible for 2 days not just one. The people with 2 sets of tires still have an advantage and will just swap tires for the run groups that are being timed each day.

So are you saying that racers with 2 sets of tires have an advantage over those with a single set regardless of the timing format.

I see the glass as half full.
The guy with only one set of tires will have a chance at timed runs on Saturday.
In fact his first chance at timed runs will be on Saturday session #2. (if sessions 2, 3 and 4 were timed)
At that time his single set of tires may have experianced only one session of wear.

Jad saw the glass 1/4 full...but it was empty...

Sorry Capt., just had to...

[Jad]

Ok, that is just not funny





Or maybe it was

[Tim Souza]

I hate to take this thread away from it's current path, but someone should at least answer the original question!

There should be a formal anouncement soon from the powers that be, but this is what is being said:

March 1-2 Streets of willow
April 4-6 California Speedway
October 11-12 Spring Mountain
November 22-23 Buttonwillow
May ?? Las vegas Speedway??

A new post and letter will be sent to all registered individuals when finalized.

[993Panzer]

Ok, that is just not funny





Or maybe it was

In the words of Larry the cable guy " I don't care who are, that was funny"

[gulf911]

I hate to take this thread away from it's current path, but someone should at least answer the original question!

There should be a formal anouncement soon from the powers that be, but this is what is being said:

March 1-2 Streets of willow
April 4-6 California Speedway
October 11-12 Spring Mountain
November 22-23 Buttonwillow
May ?? Las vegas Speedway??

A new post and letter will be sent to all registered individuals when finalized.

Spring Mountain?? Wasn't this year supposed to be the last year? Inquiring minds want to know..

[Jad]

We think we can share a weekend with the Las Vegas region of PCA, with half the groups being a DE and the other half being a TT. They have access to the track through connections, but need more cars. We have cars, but no connections, so things seem to be working out. Go Jack and Robert!

[ethand]

Would the May (??) Las Vegas event also coincide with the PCA Club race there on the weekend of May 2-4?

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[gulf911]

We think we can share a weekend with the Las Vegas region of PCA, with half the groups being a DE and the other half being a TT. They have access to the track through connections, but need more cars. We have cars, but no connections, so things seem to be working out. Go Jack and Robert!

That sounds great! Any info on how that would work? X number of run groups on Saturday, with the same on Sunday and Timed runs, where we have a larger number of run groups?

Oh, I almost forgot! If it works out do you want me to follow you up there in case...well...you know....you need gas??

[Zulu993]

Many "clubs" can run the Two Day TTs to the satisfaction of their members - what are we doing wrong?

I definitely noticed a problem at the BW event when start/finish had to call “RED” TTOD cars many, many times. Maybe we need a specific time frame when you need to be at the grid to run.

Also a stalled car caused another delay that wasn't warranted as there was room to get the other cars on track. I think we’re (PCS-SDR), are little bit too relaxed at our events and could be a little more efficient.

As a card carrying member I vote for two timed runs in a weekend.

[Mike]

The current AX timing format was the best format a couple years ago when the TT was scored with the AX photo eye timing equipment.
Now that the club has the newer transponder system event scoring no longer needs to be limited to the AX single car timing process.

The CFoS uses the My Laps website to post all transponder timed laps for the weekend, can this be extended to all our TT events?

Is there room for improvement at an SDR TT?
Is SDR using the transponder system to its potential?
Can positive changes increase interest, entries and income?


P.S. Jack and Robert make fantastic TT chairs, thanks to their efforts the club agreed to purchase the transponder system.

[Mike]

Ok, that is just not funny
Or maybe it was

I'll bet the Duncan team never runs out of fuel again.
(Not really their fault, new car with a bad fuel sender)
Jim's a pilot and flight planning includes fuel range, calculated including divert reserves.
I knew an F-14 pilot while on the way to work his car ran out of gas, he took it very seriously.

[Dan Chambers]

I definitely noticed a problem at the BW event when start/finish had to call “RED” TTOD cars many, many times. Maybe we need a specific time frame when you need to be at the grid to run.

David:

It's been my (limited) observation, and personal experience as Instuctor at TT's that many of the Red run group drivers are Instructors.

The traditional run order has been Red, Orange ( Occasionally AKA White), and Yellow. This means the Red drivers/instructors and their students have to come in from the Yellow run session and scramble to get in their cars and out to grid for Red run group. Sometimes Yellow follows Red (although not often seen in my experience) which means Red and their Students have to scramble to get from the Red Session to the Yellow Session on time. Yes, you'll hear Red Run Group called several times. And if you're in the pits, you'll hear the Red Instructors yelling "We're coming, We're coming!" as they strap in to their cars.

No matter how you slice it, with 3 run groups, and the requirement for Instructors to ride with students (and students riding with Instructors) someone's gotta scramble to get directly from one session immediately to the next session. IF the Red drivers aren't instructing, it's a little easier to get to grid on time.

For years I've shorted my sessions by 5 minutes so that I could get my student to grid on time (I don't run in Red .... way too slow ) and insure them full run sessions.

If there were 4 run groups, it would be less of a scramble; and Robert has played with variations; but the 3-group session is what Robert, Jack, and many of the TT drivers seem to prefere for optimum track time.

Got Running shoes?

[gulf911]

Jim's a pilot and flight planning includes fuel range, calculated including divert reserves.

I heard from a pilot friend of mine the majority of small plane crashes are from running out of fuel..

So, if Jims's the pilot, I'm good to go....If Jad is, well, not so much....

Man, I am going straight to hell....

ok , ok, I think I'm done....

Jad, I hope you know I am just kidding around....

If I don't talk to you before xmas I hope you have.... enough gas....

Wait, somebody stop me! Honestly, I hope you have a great xmas.!

XXXXXOOOO
Dan

[Steve Grosekemper]

Jim's a pilot and flight planning includes fuel range, calculated including divert reserves.

I heard from a pilot friend of mine the majority of small plane crashes are from running out of fuel..

So, if Jims's the pilot, I'm good to go....If Jad is, well, not so much....

Dan

I think you will notice in the results that Jim completed timing with fuel to spare... conspiracy?

[993Panzer]

Jim's a pilot and flight planning includes fuel range, calculated including divert reserves.

I heard from a pilot friend of mine the majority of small plane crashes are from running out of fuel..

So, if Jims's the pilot, I'm good to go....If Jad is, well, not so much....

Dan

I think you will notice in the results that Jim completed timing with fuel to spare... conspiracy?

I feel that it was a gift from Jad to Jim.

It was the end of the year.

Points in MI didn't matter.

Let the owner win an event.

Next year, look out. Jad will be back and I'll be running in MI trying not to finish last.